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Doesn't play there for either us or France
It's true every time he gets the ball I expect something magical to happen. How many goals he would have by the end of the season me thinks?
So impressed with him under Ole. He is so cool in front of goal.
Him, Rashford and Pogba could have hit insane numbers if Ole had started the season here. You’d have to think we’d also be fighting Pool and City for top spot.
47 goals, 33 assists since joining. Basically involved in a goal every other game. Not bad at all for a player not long 23 and considered by many as lazy and overhyped.
He’s still as of this moment the most productive player we have since his debut. It’s just pure madness that about a third if not more of this forum want him sold for fecking Perisic/Willian.
His movement has vastly improved in a short space of time. Was the only one making runs behind the defence today.
That is a guarantee. He might have even taken Giroud's position. Jose and his stupid defensive wingers.
He’s just unrreal. I agree that his best position is upfront, I like when it’s been him and Rashford with Jesse floating at #10.
I can't wait until the day Rashford & Martial become players that literally just score tap ins for us in partnership.
Have seen that goal somewhere before
The best finisher in the club. And the 2nd most creative.
Agreed. That's why he's not quite a winger. That inside 'Henry' channel is where he's absurdly devastating. Even in one of his poorer games this season he was subdued all game out side but when he came inside he did this lovely fake to beat the defender and came close to scoring.
Do you think that in the general term of a formation that he can start in such a position instead of trying to work himself there through out the match?
If he sits in that space either waiting to receive the ball or dropping deep to get it - he has so much more of an ability to be consistent.
Just whilst we are at it - if ole does manage to get/start Martial in that left 'Henry' channel - he arguably has a player in Greenwood that can play on the right 'RVP' channel & utilise his left foot. Let Rashford do his own thing right down the centre.
He is basically playing that position. There's a notable change in formation from Ole regarding the wingers not tracking back as much, giving the full backs a bigger defensive role covering their man and allowing the opposition to exploit crossing more if they can but in return we get players like Martial in a more optimal position for counter-attacks and it has worked.
Yes it's definitely there much more than ever before. I think it's still held back a tad bit on purpose only because we have to play a makeshift RW most of the time be it Lingard, Rashford or Mata.
I think once the right player comes in to RW or more comprehensively - the right inner channel; that will allow martial to play in the inner left channel more as well simply due to team positioning.
The future is very bright
Yeah, but then he faces DDG and Romero in the training
Thank God I wasn't the only one who spotted this, in the second half he was 2 better passes from lukaku and Pogba away from adding to his tally.
Ole should definitely take credit for this and I hope it becomes a permanent fixture of his game going forward.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Seems like Juan rates him alot
No need for Mbappe. I'm delighted we have Martial ourselves. Having said that, do Monaco have another similar player at their academy now and that we can poach? It's amazing they are constantly producing such talents over the years. Thierry Henry was from there as well
Trezeguet, Thuram, Petit, Mbappe too.
Just an outstanding player and talent. There Is no other player in our squad that could have done what he done today, even Pogba wouldn't have had the pace. The fact that he's only going to get better is disgusting.
I still think he is best suited to number 9
How about a new winger signing and rashford on wings with Martial as number 9 ? Not sure if Rashford can excel as a winger though
Get two wingers. Rotate between Rashford and Martial in the #9 postion. Sell Lukaku and Sanchez
Nah, Rashford and Martial need to build a partnership rather than compete. We need players to aid these two, not relegate them to bench roles
Don’t forget Evra
All we need is a Sancho level talent for the RW and that's our attack sorted for the best part of the next decade.
I've never understood the need to revert him back to the striker role especially with Rashford doing excellently there.
He might be better suited for the ST role but I feel the difference it will make to his game will be marginal and isn't worth it when we can play two of the brightest talents in the game under our current setup, tweak it a bit to get him closer to goal but for the most part best left as is.
Did anyone hear Ian Wright's assessment of Martial yesterday on MOTD? Worth a listen... he states that Martial has plenty power, pace.. but can still improve, final ball, needs to vary his game etc. He is right, I fully agree.
My feeling re Martial I have made many times. Tremendous potential, and what a run and finish yesterday. But.. he needs to add to his game. Is he a big game player? Does he win, dictate those big games for us? Does he lead? What about those games when we have more possession, at home, when teams have plenty behind the ball? (er, like Burnley recently...) free flowing football on the counter attack isn't going to help so much there.. you need more patience, guile, craft.. more quality in fact. I think I need to see that side to his game develop.
The game yesterday was perfect for him. A counter-attacking strategy, and we were playing against a side who were pretty dreadful.
Not raining on anyone's parade... Martial when he arrived was fantastic.. his all-round game then was in my view, better than it is now. As I mentioned in previous posts, let's see how he develops under Ole, because we will see his game evolve. It needs to. He is good, but there is more he needs to add to his game in my opinion.
The answer to all of that is yes. Look at his record against big teams, and Burnley you say? Look at his record against them as well. Whether sitting deep or counter attacking in big games he shows up
Each passing week offers a new reason why no self respecting club should ever touch Mourinho again.
Of course his game will evolve, he just turned 23.
He's won us many points and played well in games we were dominating. Newcastle, YB of the top of my head this season. He did not play against Burnley and we missed him.
So I don't know where this idea he doesn't play well in games we don't dominate comes from.
He’s showing that form when he first came to us always looking dangerous. Let’s hope he can keep it up.
Ian Wright is clueless.
Think we may need a couple more players to get to a champions league final again, but I take your point, with those three on form, the offensive side of the team is pretty much sorted, and hopefully Greenwood will add to that over the next year or two. With the right purchases, and with at least a couple of the outstanding under 18's coming through, I can see us giving it a real go in 20/21 season.
Tbf, there's nothing wrong with saying he needs to add more to his game.
He started off as a striker, we bought him for 50m as a striker. When he first came he played as a striker and that's where he played himself into the first XI.
But Van Gaal was doing his whole stupid 'the captain must always play bs' so he displaced Memphis instead, and was also very good on the left.
It's one of those stupid blind spots managers have. It took Heynckes returning to Bayern Munich for everyone to remember that Javi Martinez is actually a midfielder. Even Ancelotti only played him as a CB, even though he didn't even fit Ancelotti's profile for a midfielder. Moyes kept playing Smalling and Jones as RBs because it worked for Fergies. Nobody in their right minds would play them there now.
I reckon eventually by accident someone will end up playing him upfront, and then wonder why he wasn't played there all along.
The argument will never end. I'm of the opinion that under the right set up, he's at his best as a LF with liscence to drift drioss both channels. Where he isn't burdened with providing width.
We played a variation of 343/352 yesterday and it worked well.
Maybe so, but you can say that about any young player. Overall he's a terrible pundit.
No, I think he made some valid points re Martial.
By LF, I'm guessing you mean the channel between the RB and RCB. Which to me is basically a striker. Its the position Henry played.
At the moment he still starts way too wide, which is a waste for me.
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