Antoine Griezmann| Catalunya Radio say Griezmann to Barcelona is done for €100m

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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    I don't see how that can be. He is an attacking WB\FB for MUFC and in 16 matches this season he has managed a whopping ZERO assists, and his previous seasons are not much better.

    It doesn't help only to run with the ball forward when you end up either crossing it into the shin of the nearest defender or passing it backwards.

    The contribution of Ashley Young in the last few matches has shown something of what we should expect from a United WB, overlaps \ crosses and assists.

    The only reason that we accept Valencia's meagre contribution is because we have been traumatized by the last few years, we've come to accept mediocrity.
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    I don't think that it is underrated. Valencia is average going forward and good at defending, so if you use a system that requires a defensively sound fullback who is only supposed to support a genuine right sided attacker/midfielder then Valencia is a good fit but when you play with narrow attacking midfielders, you need a fullback that is a threat by himself through runs, dribbles and reliable crosses, that's not Valencia.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    His end-product in attack is the only problem.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Yeah, Young has shown up Valencia, to be honest. People started saying he had a resurgence but still wasn't actually producing much.
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    Klean Full Member

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    I don't understand why we cannot have both? Have Ozil play the #10 and Griezemann play out wide. Personally I don't understand the obsession with a winger that hugs the touchline. I also think it does a little disservice to Griezemann to refer to him as a "glorified Juan Mata." This is a top 5 player in the world who finished only behind Messi and Ronaldo in the Ballon d'Or voting last year. (edit grammar)
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    Mcking Full Member

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    He finished third in the Ballon d'or due to his performances playing as a striker - especially in the euros.
    He was poor at the euros playing on the right wing, until Deschamps changed formation to accomodate him through the middle. When was the last time you saw him play on the wing? He's simply not a £90m player in that position.
    The winger must not be a touchline-hugging type, but he should be a natural winger at least. I'm tired of this shoe-horning and putting square-pegs in round holes.
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    Klean Full Member

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    http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/09/03/analysis-mourinho-manchester-united-defence-4-4-2/

    This article breaks down the authors version of Mourinho's tactics which was published in September (i believe). Defensively the shape is very similar to a 4-4-2. The article references Miki as the 2nd striker, which could easily become Greizemann. While I respect your square pegs in round holes (and agree to an extent), if you can get a chance to add a top quality player, my opinion is you pursue the option. If the goal is to compete with Real Madrid, PSG, Barca, and Bayern then quality must be added across the whole team.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    Well, if we play him in the 'Mkhi' position, then Ozil will be shunted out wide - you know what I'm trying to imply here.
    On the bolded part, I disagree. You don't just jump in and sign a class player because he's available, when you have no place for him - its desperation.
    Making the right decisions and signing the right players will be key to closing the gap on those teams, not just filling the squad with apparently quality players.
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    sunama Baghdad Bob

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    :lol:
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    VanHaal'sRedArmy Full Member

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    Goal called offside + Winner. Him and Saul would be :drool:
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    Freak Born a freak always a freak.

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    He looked pretty shit in his all round play in that video. He's a goalscorer though, and always seem to be at the right place at the right time. Not sure he's what we need though looking at that - we need more creators, especially players who can run with the ball.
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    Adisa Full Member

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    His game has fundamentally changed from his Zaragoza days.
    Basically a striker now. Don't think we need one of those.
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    IrishMcD New Member

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    110% agree with this
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    chb23 New Member

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    He looked horrible in that video, lost the ball so often, poor passes, pushed off the ball.

    Doesn't look like he can beat a man, I guess fit right in with the rest of the team then. We're good at passing the ball around in the final third and doing nothing with it, why not add another player like that :houllier:
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    Sparky10Legend Banned

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    I agree with you but stats/shmatts

    Rooney , for example, had passable stats his last few years here.

    I do agree we need better than TV though.
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    Lawman Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    He’s creative enough plus any players that can run off the ball like Griezmann would help us in attacking fluidity.
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    Gasolin Full Member

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    Athletico is out of the C1, going to Europa League... surely it's not "better" than United now, isn't it?
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    reddaz71 New Member

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    Griezmann has made his bed so needs to lie in it till next summer, admirable loyalty but very much a blind one!
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    ayushreddevil9 Full Member

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    Sign for us already
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    deafepl Full Member

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    Remember he said he'll sign for us if we qualify for the champions league right? Now he is going to Europa league with Atletico Madrid.
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    RDCR07 Not a bad guy (Whale Killer)

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    When exactly did he say this?
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    Never.
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    Bwuk Full Member

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    Wonder if we'll be in for him in January now that he's able to play in the champs league next round.

    Ship out Mkhi, get Griezzy in. Griezmann in Lingards position in the 3412.
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    RDCR07 Not a bad guy (Whale Killer)

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    Exactly.
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    Nick. Full Member

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    Isn't he locked out from the competition now since he played in it with Atletico? Or do the rules get reset when going into the knockout rounds?
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    Bwuk Full Member

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    As far as I'm aware since they are out we can register him for the next stages?
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    He never said that. That's what the caf Sherlock's deduced from his "6 out of 10" chance of signing for United, when he was asked.
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    sammsky1 Pochettino's #1 fan

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    Alot could depend on result vs City and in December. If we still have a realistic chance for PL title in January, then Mourinho should make then case that he needs serious additional firepower to close out the season. I suspect we need abit more to win the league, should City have a mini collapse.
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    Gasolin Full Member

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    That's weird because he did play in the group stages. It would fit a great narrative though for United...
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    IrishMcD New Member

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    110% he can't, he is cup tied.
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    United_We_Stand Full Member

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    No he can't play for us in Champions League this season.

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    Yeah, I know but they reported that he would play for us if we win the Europa League to qualify for the Champions League. out of sudden, he was very being loyal to Atletico Madrid because of the transfer ban.

    6/10 chance possible for joining but would increase high chance if we win Europa League. or reduce chance if we didn't qualify for the champions league,
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    arthurka Full Member

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    He looks like a player who will add some status to our team but not sure what else.. He has been very poor this season.. I would love to have for my muppet sake but I think 100m could be spent better..
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    He actually said 7 out of 10.
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    7 was for Atletico.
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    What sort of idiot says 6 out of 10 for leaving, and 7 out of 10 for staying. Shite at maths, do not want.
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    :lol: I'm still surprised by the stupidity of that moment. I have listened his interviews for years and the only thing I can assure you is that if given the opportunity he would stay in Spain and play for Barcelona or Real Madrid, outside of them it's impossible to tell where he would go.
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    :lol:
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    :lol:
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    Igor Drefljak Definitely Russian

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    This Griezmann thread made me think.
    Does our 'ITK' still post here. Can't remember his name
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