Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by charlenefan, Sep 4, 2017.
Done deal in my opinion but not until summer 2018...
Only one that sticks out is Matic. He's not big into winter transfers. The fact that he mentioned he won't be going to Woodward to ask for a striker in January when Zlatan resigned tells me that this would happen next summer, if at all.
Not trying to WUM or derail here, but genuinely interested to know one way or the other. Hypothetically, if Chelsea were to offer €70m plus Costa for Griezmann versus €100m from United, what would be more appealing from Atletico's perspective?
If reports are accurate that they were willing to pay upwards of €42m or so for Costa this summer despite not being able to play him, so you'd have to think that the two offers are comparable, no? I suppose much would come down to how much damage Costa does to his own valuation by not training.
If we can sign him in January then we should. The sooner the better. Can't take any risks of say a Barcelona wanting to buy him.
Just send him the number 7 jersey with a fat contract and let him sign an inofficial pre contract or whatever is possible at this point in time. We need to be all over this from the beginning.
I guess that would be more appealing but an offer of 100 million would automatically trigger the release clause so Atletico woudn't be able to reject it. I'm guessing they'd accept yours as well though, very good deal for them. Then it would be down to which club Griezmann prefers
I don't think Atletico has as much power in this case. It's more about Griezmann decision. Atletico can agree the potential up to 150mil fee with other clubs, but if we can agree term with Griezmann and bring the money to pay his release clause; Atletico can't do anything.
In reality, I think Atletico rather keep Griezmann for couple more year and have a better release clause in place. 100m seems like ain't much these day. The reason they're after Costa is preparing for Griezmann's departure, not that they want to cash in at this "low" price.
Yeah makes sense overall. Again I'm not trying to WUM or anything, it's just a bit odd to me that so many seem to regard Griezmann to United as being a foregone conclusion, especially when the generally positive relationship between Chelsea and Atletico is factored into account.
I would say that his staying there is very admirable given the context of their transfer ban, so I think he will have a bigger say in dictating where he goes than normal. I'm just not sure if United necessarily is the be all end all for him as has been suggested here, no offense.
Dream scenarios for 18/19 season
If it's coming down to club decision, then logically the selling clubs tend to sell to the highest bidder.
I don't think this is nailed on. Over a season, many things can happen. Martial and Rashford, Mickhi may all have great season, thus we don't have the need to spend that much Griezmann. Or Griezmann can lose form and ain't the same player... Anything can happen.
He'll sign in January.
He's overrated, where would we even play him? I hope we stay clear of him.
No white text? He's class. He'd play where Mkhi's currently playing, with space behind the striker and little defensive duties.
Nah, the ban lasts until the end of the season doesn't it? 2 windows? So he'd still be fecking Atletico over if he left in Jan, and he'd be Cup tied.
It was the January 2017 and Summer 2017 windows. The ban is completed now.
I really don't understand why people get their knickers in a twist over a player being cup tied for the Champions League.
The group stages are finished in December, so a player joining in January would only be ineligible for the knockout phase, that might only be 2 games..!!
Would you seriously reject Greizmann and allow him to sign for a rival because he can't play in 2 games..?
How is his english?
It's more that they don't think he would sign in January and give up playing the CL knockout rounds.
Some United fans seem to be obsessed with signing AG. Reading this forum, one would think United don't have any CAMs. United don't need AG with Mata and Mikhitaryan in the squad already.
Rather the money was spent on a quality LWB or LWM.
I said he's 100% coming to United this summer, but now that Barca need more firepower, he is nailed on to join them.
What exactly is a LWM? If you're talking about the left wing position then I wonder what you have in mind for Rashford and Martial if you want to buy someone for that position. Are we going to sell one of them?
And we play mostly with regular side backs and not wingbacks so not sure why we should spend a significant amount of money reinforcing that position when we have Luke Shaw who Mourinho seems to want to develop, with plenty of backup in Blind and Young.
He isn't nailed on to join them. They can buy just about anyone they want and may opt for different player.
Agent Pogba, do your thang...
Griezmann is a boyhood United fan. His idol was Beckham and the #7 shirt is available. His mate Pogba is here and I'm sure 'uncle Pat' has told him everything about the club. His brother will try to influence him to join United. He'll be the main man in United's attack. Why would he choose to play second fiddle in a declining Barca and earning less money than at United?
So what I'm hearing is that I can continue jacking off to his Atleti Madrid highlights??
Mostly true except he's not a boyhood United fan. His idol is Beckham but it's his brother that's the United fan. He supports Lyon. But this is on like Donkey Kong
Source for all of this? I know he's mates with Pogba but why did a half Portuguese half French kid who grew up in the north of Portugal idolise Beckham and Manchester United?
He's a Lyon fan but the Beckham part is true
We know for a fact that his brother is a Man Utd fan and Griezmann was a huge admirer of David Beckham as a kid. It's not so difficult to add 2+2 and realize that Griezmann is a United fan too, although he can't exactly say it out loud whilst playing for Atletico.
It's hard to know for sure but I'm quite certain he has at least a sweet spot for United since he apparently used to watch Utd games as a kid. Professional footballers can't be very public about who they suppport
I prefer Rashford as impact-sub. If Martial can prove himself consistently on the wing this season, then the problem is solved.
It's great that Mourinho wants to develop Luke Shaw. But there is no chance of Shaw developing when he is semi-permanently injured. Young is hardly cover, as he is semi-permanently injured too. Blind is a quality defender, but his lack of pace has been exposed.
It still doesn't justify signing AG when United have Mata and Mikhitaryan, who are usually available to play.
Cheers, the links make a lot of sense given this context. Bit depressing on my end...
I think we need to give Shaw a bit more time before discarding him. There's still a chance his injury problems will be sorted out. Meanwhile Blind does fine as a backup. If Shaw misses most of this season then I agree that we should buy a left back.
I don't agree with the argument that Mata and Mkhitaryan should prevent us from signing Antoine. I think he's an exceptional player and undoubtedly better than Mata and Mkhitaryan. Not to mention that we can slot two of the mentioned three in the same lineup without any problems.
Where'd did you get that from? Griezmann grew up in Macôn in eastern France.
His family roots are from Portugal.
His mother is Portuguese, his maternal grandfather played for Pacos de Ferreira. Although his career started in eastern France he spent a lot of time as a youth in Portugal (not that there's anything wrong with this; having learned firsthand about the wonders Portugal has to offer I can hardly blame him).
I like the optimism there
Couldn't we pull a Keita-type deal and sign him in January, for the Summer?
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