Antonio Valencia... | Will wear #25 shirt from this point onwards by request

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  1. Dec 27, 2009

    Amir Full Member

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    Give him a chance to develop. God, he gives a couple of good games, he's a great player, wonderful signing, a brilliant addition, well worth the money. He has a couple of bad one's, he's a waste of money, a nothing signing, etc.
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    kouroux Full Member

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    His performance was very poor when we know what he can do.He's the most predictable winger in the team but that doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing
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    Kevin Clearly a professor of football

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    Yep. :(
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    Alex Banned

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    Probably a lot of the reason why United don't seem as electric as they have been in recent seasons
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    pete_8 Full Member

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    The jury is out on Valencia, he has had some great games and always gives his all.However I think he is a bit one dimensional...He looked good for a few games but has faded away somewhat...
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    R.N7 Such tagline. Wow!

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    He looked a bit jaded today, might be a good idea to rest him in the next game as he has played almost every game since joining us. The Ronaldo mongs are here in full force as usual I see, whinin about him never going to be a star, which every person with some IQ already were aware of and had accepted before we even had signed him.
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    NextSeason Full Member

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    The guy would be class if he learned to cross!
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    It's not even that his crossing is that poor, his biggest problem stems from the fact he never use his left foot, I know it has been done to death. But in recent timesf, if he had done so there have been oppurtunities to go in on goal if he used his left foot. When he was on a break today the fact that he dribbled with his right foot allowed the defender on the outside of him to nick the ball away had he used his left foot he would have had an excellent chance to score. I think he is a good player, but limited.
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    Solius Has a massive ginger bush

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    His form has dipped a bit, which I expected. He's a good player though, on form he's very dangerous as we've seen, and I think he can get even better.
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    Kraftwerker Formerly RedAddict

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    The disappointment stems from the fact he's made some great contributions previously and has gone off the boil a little. At least we're not disappointed because he's been utter crap, as with Nani.
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    the jury is not out - he's clearly been an excellent buy and has finally had a couple of below par performances. Both wingers were shut out vs Hull and Giggs doesn't have much to prove does he? For those mongs saying how predictable he is, it hasn't helped defenders to stop him for the most part has it?
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    londonredmaniac I suffer delusions of grandeur

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    Struggled big time today, but he's been decent thus far
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    MadDogg Full Member

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    To be fair, in Giggs, Beckham and Ronaldo we've had arguably three of the best five wingers of the last two decades (along with Messi and Figo). Unless we signed Messi there's not another winger in the world today who does stack up to those three players.

    Valencia's last four or five games have been a bit disappointing, but he was our best player for most of October and November. If he can reach that level on a consistent basis then he certainly is going to be a quality player for us.
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    gbgary Full Member

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    i think that's more about ronaldo's absence than valencia's presence.
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    As someone said earlier, he may be a bit jaded after playing so many games. He and Evra are rarely injured or rested. Perhaps he will sit out the Leeds and first leg against City games. Overall, he's a good signing so far. He and Giggs are clearly our best wingers and need to be kept fresh for the big matches.
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    Sunny Jim Full Member

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    solid, not spectacular. i'd agree with your post.
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    I think he just needs to take on some more responsibility and realize what we need and expect from him. He has the ability to do what we want, which is commit the full back and put him on the back foot constantly, just keep testing him and trying to create an opening.

    I feel its more a mental thing, he needs to be in the state of mind that, he will create something every time he gets the ball, too often he chooses to keep it safe, but in his position we need more than that.

    He has pace to burn, close control and great acceleration from a stand still, and an understated first touch. Just needs the belief and direction.

    For example in the game upon receiving the ball quite deep when he is faced with the left back, he often chooses to lay it back to the the midfielder or look straight away for the striker, he could do with just running at his man and putting the defender on the back foot each time and isolating him before they can get more men back, that in itself will create space and have people backing off him, like ronaldo. Its a learning curve atm, he will improve.
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    My god I love this player, since day 1
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    Class performance so far
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    He's been terrific today.
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    Feckin' 2 assist this match ! Where are his bashers ?
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    FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster

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    Glad he listened. He's had a good game today, some of his decision making and crossing was off but overall pretty good. Him and Rafael have ripped their left hand side apart
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    esmufc14 9 Pages of infractions

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    7 goals in 15 games now. Fantastic for a debut season, hopefully this performance tonight will give him the confidence to really push on.
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    beauty match for the lad
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    adexkola American Arse

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    Mind you, this match was against Wigan, hopefully he will continue from here
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    "I don't like defensive wingers. Whinge moan whinge."
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    Another brilliant signing by SAF
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    Still had a majority of poor crosses. However, when he looks up and plays a pass instead he's much better as I've said before. Had a good game.
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    Red Pavan shittest username ever manutddabest791

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    Brilliant today, beats player whips cross, beats player whips cross, beats player whips cross. Scores Goals too and a top signing from SAF as usual.
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    i've always liked him.
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    He's got a brilliant knack of just comepletely destroying average/crap defences. And 7 in 15 games is brilliant for a winger at a new club. Next step I guess would be for him to turn these performences in against better clubs.

    All looking good so far.
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    Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04

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    Good performance tonight and a beautiful, well deserved goal. If he keeps improving and playing like that, there wont be any complaints from me!
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    give them time. they will be amazing by the end of the season
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Well said.

    Some absolute drivel posted in this thread about a player who is having a better debut season than anyone dared hope.
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    I would say it's brilliant for any right winger whose name is not Cristiano Ronaldo.
    Besides Ronaldo didn't influence the big matches until the 06/07 season, so as you say very rightly, as time goes on Valencia's performance in big matches will improve.
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    Figueroa didn't even bother trying to defend against him in the end.
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    Garethw Full Member

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    A great performance by him tonight.

    Anybody following in the footsteps of CR7 was going to be looked down upon but has certainly done more than enough to justify his inclusion in the first 11.

    Starting to look like a really good signing.
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    Valencia is top class, so glad Rafael's looking good.. in my opinion if Rafael secures a slot in the team, Valencia will just get better and better.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    You do realise that when a winger "looks up and plays a pass" it's still a cross, right?

    Just thought I'd point that out. You're doing your standard routine of making yourself seem considerably more stupid than you actually are, in a desperate attempt to avoid admitting a previous opinion may need to be revised. You really should stop it.
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    Its a side footed technique, not a crossing technique. Its a pass as with anywhere else on the pitch. To cross the ball you use a different technique. You get underneath the ball and lift it. When he has to dig out crosses from the wing its usually not very good. His short passing is better than most wingers in the league though, hence why he can play centrally as well.
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