Are the lower half Premier League clubs going to take more points this year?

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    Wumminator The Special One!

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    More and more lower half clubs are making expensive and maybe”astute” signings.

    West Ham, Fulham, Wolves and Leicester seem to have been making some interesting signings.

    Players like Seri, Schurlle, Shaqiri, Digne, Felipe Anderson, Yarmalenko, Rui Patricio have alll joined clubs who traditionally you wouldn’t expect to challenge for big honours.

    Will this result in them taking more points from the big clubs this year? Which club do you think have made good signings? Any team had the wool put over their eyes?
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    I think the gap between the top 6/7 and the rest will be smaller, but not that much smaller.

    West Ham are the ones to watch for me.
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    Lots of teams will be looking at fixtures against ourselves, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs, and thinking we’re all very beatable. This could all be proved very wrong over the first couple of months. My gut feel is you may have a point though.
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    I sure as hell hope so. Id like to see a record low points League winner and record high points set of relegated teams.
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    Wumminator The Special One!

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    Btw- I was looking for a bet on my accumulator earlier and I can’t see past stoke.

    They’ve got Joe Allen, Diouf, Ashley Williams, Afobe, Etobe, Butland and Ince.

    Surely that is enough to win the Championship?
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    Massive Spanner Thinks Geoff Shreeves has one

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    Lower placed clubs making expensive signings is nothing new. I reckon they'll still mostly be a bit shit, and we might get a different Burnley team this time.
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    I think CP might do well - I hope anyway.
    I think a think a top 10 finish.
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    We can only hope so. We absolutely need them to take points off of the other big teams, especially city.

    Last season it felt like, for the most part, the only big teams that were regularly scalped were Chelsea and Arsenal. Last season was really lacking in upsets against our rivals, or at least it felt like there were less than usual.

    That being said, Fulham, Crystal Palace and West Ham look good to do some damage this season.

    Quote me on this when three of them get relegated
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    Wumminator The Special One!

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    I know two Crystal Palace fans frustrated with their lack of signings. What makes you feel they’ll do well?
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    Forest, Villa and Leeds will all do them and get promoted. Next season the PL will party like its 1978.
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    They looked very good towards the end of the season if they can get off to a good start they should do quite well. Hodgson has them playing some good stuff.

    They've signed 3 players already including Myer and might bring in Ayew as well, if Zaha stays they should do well and Benteke really can't do any worse than last season either.
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    Probably because we lost Stoke, West Brom and Swansea and we've got Fulham, Wolves and Cardiff and Fulham and Wolves are certainly improvements. Plus, I imagine a lot of the 'top 6' will get off to dodgy starts due to the World Cup but I'd doubt any of the lower half will really improve that much.
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    Wumminator The Special One!

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    After transfer deadline day has passed I have to say that Fulham, West Ham, Everton and Wolves have really pushed the boat out this year and that is great to see. Leicester and Brighton have signed some decent players as well.
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    There will be little difference. WHU as always have mostly spent big money on nothing players, their saving grace is the coach is good and will get results out of a very average team. Fulham won't score goals, Wolves might be good, but then Burnley will be worse.

    Mostly, City will walk their way to more than 90 points again, and the rest of the top 6 will all top 70. Maybe Everton will be decent, but still.
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    I mean, the lower half of the league were absolute garbage last year, so they can't exactly be any worse.
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    Top five or six (depending on Arse under Emery) will still be way ahead.

    Also the lower half spent a shit-tonne last summer and were diabolical last season so.. why would that change?
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    I don't see a lot of genuine quality in the league outside the top 6 teams. The mid tier bunch have a handful of decent players between them.
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    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

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    It remains to be seen how these lower half teams will play. Hopefully they'll add competitiveness.
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    Last season Everton bought a truck load and still they change their manager. The new addition will need to gel for improvement, else it's pointless.

    We'll see.
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    Disagree with you there, they've made a few smart signings for low fees. Fabianski is a very good keeper and only cost them 7m, he's comfortably better than Adrian. Might not be starting straight away but it won't take him long to oust Adrian. Ryan Fredericks is a good player and they picked him up on a free, instant upgrade on Zabaleta. Jack Wilshere was another one they got on a free and he's a good player as long as he stays fit. He'll improve their midfield. Haven't watched Balbuena so can't comment on him and I don't rate Carlos Sanchez but both were low fees.

    It's a real shame about Lanzini though.
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    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

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    They also bought Felipe Anderson and Yarmolenko. Yarmolenko didn't do anything of note at Dortmund though.
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    I was ignoring the big money signings and just focusing on the lower fees. Yarmolenko was rubbish at Dortmund from what I gather but for 17/18m it's probably worth a punt. I've liked what I've seen but haven't watched a shed load of him. Anderson I know has a big reputation but I've seen next to nothing of him, big fee. The other big fee was Diop who they paid about 20m for, never seen him play, just know he's a talented youngster. I heard Pellegrini had the choice between Mawson and Diop and chose the latter.
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    Absolute nonsense.

    You could have a team from the bottom ten clubs that would be a CL contender in some leagues.
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    Still think City will end up with 95-100 points again so they may take points from the other shaky big clubs around.
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    It'd be pretty hard for them to take fewer considering 44 points was good enough for 10th last season. Still a lot of average sides around, I think the difference this year will be Cardiff getting cut adrift fairly quickly and hopefully a couple of teams like Wolves and Fulham establishing themselves as solidly mid-table early on.
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    Like the dutch league? Sure

    @Cascarino you're right, i was wrong. West Ham spent a lot of money on TWO nothing player that will be out of the league within a year
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    Like any league.

    There is some class players lower down in the division. Arguing otherwise is absolutely mental.
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    I wasn't saying you were wrong, just think that a few of their less big money purchases could turn out to be quite astute. Not that I think this will lead to instant success, the squad has a few holes. Before the transfer window I'd have said CB's were a neccessity so a lot of pressure on Balbuena and Diop.

    Why do you think Yarmolenko and Anderson will flop?
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    I think the of the top teams City and one of Liverpool or United will go close on 90 points. We'll have a couple in the low 80's and 5th place could be mid 70's so the gap will be bigger. I think the gap between the top 6 and rest will be bigger because Arsenal have finally got their shit together. Was 9 points last season could be around 15 this term. Think the bottom teams will also hit a little higher with 40ish points for 18th, its the middle group and bottom teams who are now more capable of beating each other that will decide things. Wouldn't be surprised to see around 10-15 or so points between 7th and 18th. Something like, league winners 90-95, CL 75-80, top 6 70, 7th 52, 18th 40
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    None of the clubs you list will finish in the bottom half.

    West Ham perhaps.