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Are we chasing too many competitions?

Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by glazed, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. Mar 13, 2019
    #41

    ReallyUSA New Member

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    ... It's fecking Manchester United. The last thing the team needs to lose is conform to some small club mentality.
  2. Mar 13, 2019
    #42

    Havak Pokemon master

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    I've thought about this a lot and I think it'll just be a case of Ole having to trust certain players a bit more. They've proved with the result in Paris that they can cut it even in big games.

    I'd actually argue the case in the OP of our squad being too thin. Our squad, in terms of an overall squad, is the best in the League bar Man City. It's just that our first XI isn't quite up to the level of City, Liverpool, and maybe Spurs.
  3. Mar 13, 2019
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    ROFLUTION Full Member

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    Some rotation would be fine. Just need to motivate the squad players correctly like Fergie did. Mix it with some of the stars.

    Very macho and old school to just believe everyone of our stars can play 100% of the games. Fergie was the master of using the full squad and have a balanced mix.
  4. Mar 13, 2019
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Imagine a big club competing for various competitions. Pretty weird!
  5. Mar 13, 2019
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    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    Nah, this is what football is all about. Competing for as many competitions/cups as possible
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    lewwoo Full Member

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    The FA cup is still a big deal and one we should never feel we are above. We should go for it 100%.
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    If we get EL, I think we’ll have less points next year in the league but really push for winning the EL. We would need some more serious investment but Fosun will provide that. Probably bias but I feel our team would be up for challenging for the Europa league already atm, a lot of poor sides in it.

    Think we’re going to have to fall out for saying orange instead of old gold though :nono:
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    DanWWFC New Member

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    :lol::lol:
    You’ve caught me.
  9. Mar 13, 2019
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    Random Task Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    I knew it, I fecking knew it!
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    Gator Nate New Member

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    Agreed. For all the grief they get, it's fairly consistent quality now, though not completely top-shelf. Gonna get a lot of heat, though, for saying it.
  11. Mar 13, 2019
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    Harry190 Full Member

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    I'll quote/paraphrase Roy Keane when Rio joined his first training session: ''Hey, this is Manchester United...''.
  12. Mar 13, 2019
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    KennyBurner New Member

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    What sort of Gen Z thread is this? Embarrassing to say the least.
  13. Mar 13, 2019
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    Schmiznurf Full Member

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    OP should be disowned and deported for this stupid thread.
  14. Mar 13, 2019
    #54

    glazed Full Member

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    If we fail in all three competitions, would you change your mind?
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    #55

    Red00012 New Member

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    Exactly, 2 defeats on the bounce is going to do nothing for us. A win before the break and we’ve a trip to wembley to look forward to.
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    Solsjkaer has made the point that when you’re playing for Utd, you’re supposed to try and win every match and every trophy available.

    Whilst I wouldn’t mind us resting players, I agree with the message he’s sending to everyone. It’s been too long that we’ve accepted mediocrity.

    If we finish 5th but win the FA Cup, it’s a damn good season.
  17. Mar 13, 2019
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    Irwin99 Full Member

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    I hate to see United lose in ANY competition and I hate to see the FA cup being dismissed as this is our best chance of actually winning something this season. Top 4 is the priority but professionals players and fans should be looking forward to the challenges. It's actually amazing to think that our entire season looked over in December and here we are now with three things left to play for :devil:
  18. Mar 13, 2019
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    We should get out of all competitions as soon as possible so we can focus on next season.
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    I agree with the bolded. If you just had a more consistent attacking line you'd win it in my opinion. Defensively and midfield-wise Wolves are solid.
  20. Mar 13, 2019
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    Catt The least positive person in match threads ever

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    What I'm thinking as well. Lets put all effort into next season.
  21. Mar 13, 2019
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    One of the more bizarre threads I've seen on here. And I realise that's a high bar.
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    Scholsey2004 Full Member

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    Moyes legacy.
  23. Mar 14, 2019
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    cyril C Full Member

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    We rest for the whole week for the Wolves QF, so no need to rotate. Semi is another matter

    As in the old days, CL >> EPL >> FA, make a few rotation if necessary
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  24. Mar 14, 2019
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    soccerMad New Member

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    Why 68 and not 69 :D or 100%? :devil:

    Going through this thread, happy that all of you agreed. It is good for the Club, good for the Manager, good for the players and fantastic for the fans to remain in as many competition as we can.

    Bring them on.
  25. Mar 14, 2019
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    Reddy Rederson Full Member

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    Imagine the nerve of united. A football club entering and competing in football compititions. Its fecking madness! :rolleyes:
  26. Mar 14, 2019
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    WR10 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Sorry mate Ole tried to take your advice. Unfortunately the B team progressed us into the quarter finals of the CL
  27. Mar 14, 2019
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    Sereques Full Member

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    Who are these people? Since when is Manchester United chasing too many trophies?

    This is what we do every season, This is Us.
  28. Mar 14, 2019
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    tieunhilang New Member

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    It's not that I don't understand where your concern comes from. But think of it as this way: This is a legit test for Ole as a Manchester United manager. We should aim to win as many trophies as possible. Manchester United fighting on all fronts should be the norm. If players are tired, manager would just rotate. Sir Alex Ferguson did this magnificiently. Ole said the same thing about how it's just the chance for more academy players to grab.

    Many people want and wish for Ole to be the permanent manager next season. So this is another test of him that we should have: Fighting on all fronts and rotating players efficiently. This should be the bread and butter for any Manchester United managers. Ole must be having multiple headaches because of all these issues. But I'm sure his heart is also trembling with excitement too. The same for our supporters: We are all concerned but also quietly trembling with excitement when we see our team fighting like this.

    So bring it on! We are called "The team that wouldn't die" for a reason. If there are any teams that could come into these situations and still bring back good results against all odds, it's us. :keano:
  29. Mar 14, 2019
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    So we should ditch a competition (CL) in the hopes of finishing well enough in the EPL to qualify for the same competition next season. Top work.
  30. Mar 14, 2019
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    Any outfield player has to be rotated. It's not only about physical but also mental freshness. Pogba is a great athlete but can't play 3 high intesity games within a week, no chance. His form has dipped a bit since Chelsea away,mostly because he played a bit too much in the last months. Arguably, same with Rashford. Rotation is key and Fergie was great at it.
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    Kapardin Full Member

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    It's all Ole fault. Should have crashed out to PSG, sack him.
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    meamth Full Member

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    We should ask Arsenal supporters in caf. They might have the best insight.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    Our squad is thin?
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    Schmiznurf Full Member

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    feck no because we still tried and top teams should go for everything.
  35. Mar 14, 2019
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    bosnian_red Worst scout to ever exist

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    Could be what ends up costing us. Could also end in us having an amazing season. It's the demands at United. You go for everything and then see where you end up short and you strengthen in that department.
  36. Mar 14, 2019
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    GBBQ Full Member

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    That's a good point, not just in terms of squad depth but in terms of leadership and mental strength of the team. I'd say Ole knows a lot about his players after the PSG match and probably a couple of things after the Arsenal match too.

    It will be disappointing if we miss top 4 and crash out of cups in the quarter finals but as it stands we're in the mix for 2 cups and a decent league position from what seemed like a write off season in December.
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    Sky1981 Fending off the urge

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    Can you stop complaining about everything and enjoy the season for a change?
  38. Mar 14, 2019
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    TRUERED89 New Member

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    It doesn't matter, as someone posted earlier, we're in it to win it! Imagine SAF had that mentality in 1999 or 2008. Or any other double winning seasons for that matter. We've had 10 first XI players out and they're all slowly returning. We're in much better shape now to fight on all 3 fronts (top 4, FA Cup, CL).

    Particularly pleased with Perreira and McTominay who have proved they can come in a do a job for the team. Plus if we get into the Semi final of CL and/or FA Cup our confidence will keep growing and that can only be a positive thing, providing we don't have another crazy injury crisis.
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  39. Mar 14, 2019
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    I have the feeling that Solskjaer is reducing his tactical ambitions a bit (I mean the high tempo, hard pressing, attacking etc. we saw during his first games) to make it sustainable, and adding some rotation here and there will be helpful too.

    Surely people like Fred, McTominay and Pereira have now more confidence and better competition rhythm to be useful at least in the typical home game against cannon fodder. There's also Dalot knocking at the door, players coming back from injuries, so we have the chance to remain competitive in every game with some smart management, something I fully trust Solskjaer and the current staff to be able to do. If we win or not is yet to see, but we have to try it at least.
  40. Mar 14, 2019
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    Robbo's Shoulder Full Member

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    Moan when we're out of competitions, moan when we're still in competitions.