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The squad selection for the qualifier games against Uruguay and Venezuela
The rumored starting XI vs Uruguay
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Which would look something like this I guess?
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The player who would play in the right position could be Acosta or Bustos, Rigoni... there's no confirmation of it. The midfield is pretty much crap.
Also Acuña has been tested in there.
@Peyroteo how is he doing at Sporting?
The MID though
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their volantes look pretty underwhelming when you look at that lineup.
Paulinho and Renato Augusto looks underwhelming on paper as well for us but their performance has justify there place so far. I give this a chance.
About time Icardi gets in the squad
Had Icardi been "vetoed" for what happened with his ex and Maxi López?
Not Peyroteo, but Sporting fan here.
Acuña has played all 6 official matches Sporting had this month, 2 of them against Steaua Bucuresti from Romania, always as a starter.
We play mainly a 4/4/2 or recently a 4/2/3/1 where he plays as a Left Winger, 487 minutes, 1 goal and 1 assist against Steaua and more 3 assists on the League.
He is not very creative but works for the team and looks well integrated, besides we have Gelson playing on the Right Wing, so it is a good mix and contrast.
Only factor is that we don't play 3 at the back, but he probably played that system in Argentina I guess?
I think Di Maria is better on the right flank
never thought I'd say it but they are really missing Rojo in that defence
a better central defender than Otamendi
dude Rojo and I ain't got no time for haters
in all seriousness he's a more solid CB than Otamendi, certainly based on last season's form
I imagine Rojo will play left when fit
I literally forgot Icardi was Argentinian.
Romero! He's won us all over after last season
Argentina better hope Rojo is back and hitting form for the world cup. Great centre half on his day.
Mascherano will likely be dropped (his form since the 2016 Copa America has been dreadful, he might be on a steady decline).
Rojo-Otamendi-Musacchio is Argentina's best bet for a 3 man defense IMO. I don't know why Musacchio is never called up. He's a quality defender.
Thanks for that. Acuña is not used to play like that at all. That's something Sampaoli himself said.
Carrer Otamendi is more solid imo, I say this because I know more or less the potential of the 2 when they played in Portugal, and Otamendi was better, Rojo had 1 great season with Leo Jardim in 2013/2014 and last season with Mou.
Otamendi with AVB and Vitor Pereira at Porto was way better than Rojo, also was good at Valencia, in WC 2014 Rojo played as a left fullback and not as centerback, just my opinion, and I like Rojo tbh, even if I did not liked the way he left the club, not United fault tbf.
Tbf the majority of Argentinian players who are playing in Europe are not playing under this system, maybe Mercado last season at Sevilla, anyway Sampaoli going full Bielsa vs Uruguay, hopefully goes better than Bielsa at Lille.
As always, pretty shitty team. Let's see how Messi plays.
He's great, @SCP pretty much said everything. He's a fighter, very strong defensively and puts great balls in the box, which already has had an impact on our set pieces compared to last season. Bas Dost will love getting on the end of his crosses. The one thing I haven't liked so far is that he loves cutting to his left foot a bit too much.
That looks unbalanced. It's way too attacking especially in an away game against Uruguay. Neither Messi or Dybala will be great at helping the midfield and the 2 wide players are too attacking.
I get why Argentina would play 3 at the back since they have plenty of quality CBs but I don't think they have capable wingbacks to pull it off.
Pretty much what I told you
Yup. With Gelson on the other side he gives balance to the team. I think he'll be very important and I can see him staying for several years. Rodrigo Battaglia is doing very well too so far, if someone breaks William's release clause there will be two argentines starting for us.
That's some front 3. What would that be worth in today's market? 500m + or so.
I agree: Messi 400 millions and 100 millions for the 2 others
This team is so desperately in need of creative midfielders it's almost tragic.
Biglia and Pizarro offer absolutely nothing other than easy sideways passes to the nearest player available. Neither can move the ball quickly or with purpose.
Sampaoli's 3-1-2-1-2 lineup against Venezuela tomorrow
That's... different. I can't wait to see Dybala play CM
That's not how it will look like at all. They'll use the same formation as the Uruguay game. Di Maria and Acosta as wingbacks and Dybala, Messi and Icardi as the front 3.
They play under different systems too, Rojo at United gets a lot more protection than Otamendi at City who much like our CB's has to defend vast spaces.
Anyways what channels do these games get shown on? Want to watch the Brazil one.
That was the rumour. Sampaoli won't let Messi dictate his team though, and it isn't surprising that the first moment Argentina does not have a nothing manager, Icardi gets called.
Yup was going to say the same, those positions are wrong, 1 of the good things for Argentina is as unconventional Sampaoli might be, he knows how he wants his team to play, and Dybala alonside Banega doesn't make any sense at all.
You can say that yes, the way Pep wants his teams to play project much more the fullbacks than Mou, maybe why they started with 3 at the back on the first 2 matches, but clearly the team showed lack of creativity, with the back 4 they also will be more exposed because Fernandinho doesn't have the positional awareness of Yaya or Gundogan imo.
Thanks!, very strange situation anyway, for him and the rest of the team
Why would you not swap Di Maria and dybala there?
How does Di Maria look as a wingback? On paper it looks crazy, maybe less so than Dybala in central midfield, but still...
Dybala is not playing CM tomorrow. He will be in a front 3 with Messi and Icardi.
Banega is capable of linking the defense with the attack. If Sampaoli can get the best out of him. I think it would improve them a lot.
He looked poor vs Uruguay. Was alright defensively but offensively he didn't add anything and his crossing was pretty poor.
A motivated & fit Banega is world class and a joy to watch. It's a shame that he only plays well for a few weeks of the year.
Emery knows how to manage him.
Thanks. One would have thought that with Sampaoli they'd stop putting square pegs in round holes. Maybe he knows something we don't though.
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