Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by K2K, Jan 22, 2018.
Me too, signed him yesterday for £30mil.
50 million is modest fee now?! Bloody hell.. No chance.. Hope we stay clear..
I remember when he was at Juve.
I saw a solo goal scored against Juve and the attacker who scored ran two-thirds of the pitch and then scored.
Vidal started the run with a headstart. The attacker overtook him and left him for dead. It was like watching a 45 year old man chase a 25 year old man. There was no point in him giving chase and he did eventually give up. It was humiliating.
After the goal was scored. P.Evra gave a very shocked look to Vidal. I don't think even Evra could believe how physically poor this guy was, that day.
As long as the game is played at a slow pace, with little physicality, he'll be fine. The problem is that the EPL is physical.
EDIT: here it is. Either the attacker is faster that U.Bolt, or Vidal is one of the slowest pro footballers on the planet.
I think he could be a great signing. Even squeezing two more decent years out of him while one or two youngsters possibly develop and take over.
Some people are obsessed about having to replace players after two or three years. It’s relatively normal in small doses.
Won the FA Cup already, he scored the first one in the final against Spuds, I don't care
So you think the EPL is too "physical" for Arturo Vidal?!
As for the video, you do realize that a football pitch is not only long, but also wide?
We kept Schweinsteiger and sold Kroos. So nothing is impossible.
To be fair, pace isn't among Vidal's strong suits. Plus, he isn't the only one to blame for that goal.
Maybe on a 2 year deal on not too high wages. It’s unlikely that he would settle on lower wages though considering his age.
Funny how United fans, who most likely only see him in the CL, are saying he's not the player he was. Yet Bayern fans still rate him, who watch him week in week out.. which is it?
Not sure we could land him anyway, unless we do some kind of loan deal where we can send him back to Bayern for Oktoberfest.
They rate him and are still content to move on? I'd say they rate him the same way a shady merchant rates his 'totally legit' goods.
We'll definitely buy a midfielder this summer, not sure he is the answer though?
Makes sense as of course we Bayern posters are selling him and you United posters will buy him. Via Paypal I assume.
A 31 year old box to box with disipline and booze problems while Bayern pick up one of the best young box to box CM's around on a free and charge us £50M for their has-been is not good business.
Because we already suffered twice by signing Hargreaves and Schweinsteiger. Never ever trust Bayern, they are the most shrewd club out there.
Yes but Bastian wasnt 31.
Yeah, but as you guys found out, he was over the hill already.
Think he'll end up at Chelsea for around £20m.
Just because they're Bayern fans it doesn't make their opinion final. Look at this forum of posters that watch United every week and how varied opinions are.
Plus being good enough for Bundesliga and PL are two entirely different things. Vidal has made a living out of being the high energy tough guy in more conservative leagues.
So now the Premier League is apparently too tough and physical for Vidal.
Arturo Vidal, the guy who marked Messi out of two Copa America finals, would not be able to deal with the unbelievable pace of the Premier League.
Now I’ve heard it all...
When both were at Juventus while playing in a diamond midfield, Pogba played in the left-sided role and Vidal in the no.10 position. I believe this is the position where Vidal played his best football (also operating there for the Chilean national team).
While no doubt capable of operating deeper in a regular box to box capacity, he suited the freedom afforded to him as the most advanced midfielder with his want to empty that area of the pitch - closer to Gerrard, Ballack or Hamsik than Essien, Khedira or Kante. He epitomises ‘box to box’ in his attitude but not in the traditional positional sense. Certainly, he wasn’t the kind of player who’s presence you would describe as having ‘freed up’ a teammate. He wanted to be the one with the freedom to go and press high, and to have the platform behind him from which to storm forward - aggressively supporting the forwards and constantly gambling with his positioning.
Again though, I’ve not seen enough recently to know if he’s still that player or if he’s settled into a more moderate style of play.
While I'm definitely not against signing an 'older' player for a good 2 years of returns, in the spirit of RvP, but I think the returns you get on a season striker in terms of goals and points will probably be higher than doing the same thing with a midfielder. I'm not saying signing Vidal for one last hoorah will not be a good thing, but I'd rather use the money to buy a younger player and integrate them into the team long-term.
Whether that's a younger Seri, or a 28-29 year old that can bring a level head and some experience.
How's Thiago been with injuries this season? If he is able to stay fit, we should bite their hands off for him.
If Conte is still there I could see this too. It'll be one of 'his signings' so he can't keep moaning when the other 3 are Albrighton, Ben Hamer, and Glen Murray.
He's expected to be back this or next week after having been out for the last 3 months
Anyway, he won't be for sale. His contract runs till ' 21, he's well settled, highly regarded(despite usually missing 50% of a season), and the only DLP in the squad.
What are the actual chances of Conte even making it to the end of this season?
Don't agree with United wanting to sign Vidal for a large fee and huge wages, he's looked a bit past it at times this season (and last) and I don't think he'l be anywhere near the success he's been in Germany and Italy in England at his increasing age. He has periods of great form and fantastic performances (like against Real last season) but generally you can see that the trend is downwards. The time to buy him was when he was moving to Juve from Leverkusen (there was no doubt in my mind back then that he would be a star I won't agree that it was a risk) or when he moved to Bayern. Right now, in his last contract, it would be very risky given the costs associated with it.
Also, if United wanted to sign Vidal, why didn't they try for Goretzka who is basically a younger Vidal and free (whether he reaches those levels remains to be seen but certainly is a similar player and really good)?!
Has struggled again. By the way, I don’t think we’ll sell him. But I wouldn’t be completely sure about that. It’s just a gut feeling that players like him aren’t valued that highly by our board. Same with Kroos.
You do realize Vidal isn't a wrecking ball like Dembele? He's very, very good on the ball.
I haven't seen him in recent years apart from the CL so I can't comment whether he is still class or not. As mentioned above, there is no reason for Bayern fans to lie about his ability or not, it's not like Woodward is on this forum, buying players due to the opinion of others.
Thanks. I doubt you will sell him either. Just if you do, we should be all over it. Class player. Still cannot believe we fecked up big time because of fecking Moyes not being able to make up his mind about him. My hatred towards the man grows every time I think about him, his performance as our manager, his excuses and how he fecked up our chances to sign Thiago.
How could i say this?
If you judge a player based on only one play, you may end up having really off opinions very often. If you think this play is representative of a player who is well known for running 10k every game and to be one of the best box to box midfielders of the last decade, then i think youre just nit picking for your agenda.
Really. Try to watch full bayern games or better, full Juventus games to form a more solid opinion, because i dont think youre doing it right now. This place is full of some of the best football analysts you can find in footie forums and this post is really substandard
Edit: also didnt realize the player who scored that goal was Peres. Yes, he is usain Bolt fast. Doubt anyone could catch him at full throttle next to the line from the middle of the pitch.
I think Rudy will be first in line to let go. He's not getting much time even now, before the addition of Goretzka.
The ball moves much quicker when its being punted over your head from the back line than it does if Messi is running at you with it.
Yes, because clearly long balls were invented in England and no one else uses them. No national team, no other club from any other team. Long balls is something that is exclusively used by Premier League teams.
I really really don't want him. He is such cnut. He epitomises everything I hate about modern day uneducated filthy rich football players. Rant over.
Admittedly the sarcasm wasn’t that obvious in my post, but I wasn’t being entirely serious bud.
Man, I remember when he was just becoming popular and everyone wanted him. Now the fecker is 30. Time flies
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