Bayern Munich 2018

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  1. Jan 9, 2019

    Zlatattack Full Member

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    Good on him for saying what's on his mind. I get those people who dislike fooballers for having wealth and showing off about it.
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    So, you enjoy watching a league where you root for no team?
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    Cloud7 Full Member

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    No I enjoy watching football, so I enjoy watching the high quality of football in La Liga regardless of who’s playing, I just have a preference for either of the big two losing, but don’t actually care if it doesn’t happen. I still get to watch some good football.

    My post was more me being facetious about the poster saying you get bored of a league if you don’t support a team in it, than anything else.
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    Cloud7 Full Member

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    Yeah. I watch La Liga and Serie A when there’s an interesting match on without really rooting for anyone in particular. Football is an enjoyable sport to watch.
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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    I actually think your approach is very sensible, where you pick one team to root for in each league and stick by it. You can also enjoy the football at play and just having some mild preferences for some players / coaches.

    I just challenged the notion to have enjoyment by rooting for the losing side most of the time. I mean I don't enjoy watching Juventus play and I don't want them to win most of the time, but I would never watch their matches against some random mid table side I have no connection to, just to end up disappointed that they won yet again. Sounds like a massive waste of time to me.
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    LoveFootball New Member

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    I frequently watch PL, La Liga and French League and little of Bundesliga and Italian league and apart from Manchester United I don't support any other team else. I like Barca thought because of Messi but I can't say that I support them as many times I want them to lose so that I can laugh at my friends. I like to watch every team that play good football but can't label that interest as support. Picking a side doesn't mean supporting them. Most of us picked City against Liverpool and want them to do well to prevent Liverpool from winning the title, do you think we've became City fans?
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    But that's only watching the most mediatic matches, not really following the league as you would follow your national league. So, it's kinda natural that you don't support any team.

    A lot of people follow other leagues in the same manner they follow their national leagues, and you can only do this if you pick a side. A bit like happens at the WC or Euro
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    Ehehe. Rooting for the underdogs it's kidna fun, because you can feel their struggle on the pitch.

    But you mention one thing I forgot: people like to support their favourite players.
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    It's fine by me. In a game where you don't have "sympathy" for any team, you eventually become a 90 mins fan ehehhe

    But as I told you, for people who follow several leagues (and when i say follow I say they know the standings, results, and most of the players of almost every team) makes sense to support a team.

    If other people enjoy following other leagues results and standings without caring about who wins/loose/gets demoted, is also fine by me.
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    Acrobat7 Full Member

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    I can guarantee you, that Dortmund won’t dominate the league „for a couple of years“.
    Bayern is too wealthy to not attract the best players and they will eventually get a coach who is up to their standards again.
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    KingMinger22 City >>> United. Moaning twat

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    I predict that Liverpool will thrash them.
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    Patrick08 Full Member

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    Too wealthy? Their attitude in the market is completely the opposite though. You can't get elite players without spending these days now.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Do big clubs sign elite players or they sign players who have so much potential and play them? There are obviously few elite players who moved but when you see, most of the signings are when player is about to hit the peak or player who shows lot of promise.

    For example, Ramos, Varane, Carvajal, Marcelo, Modric, Benzema were not elite players when Madrid signed them but they were all Elite players during their time at Madrid.

    Same in the case of Bayern. Robben, Ribery, Boateng, Neuer, Martinez were not all elite players. They had potential and Bayern signed him.

    Don't know when this trend started, that clubs should buy best players all the time.
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    Acrobat7 Full Member

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    Compare their wealth to Dortmund and other BuLi clubs. The poster said the he expects Dortmund to dominate for a couple of years. That is just (wishful?) thinking.
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    He might not be wrong as i'm not expecting our F.O to fire Kovac as they've hyped him up in public on many occasions. The thing is that i don't think Kovac is decent enough to elevate our level, even with new signings... He is pretty stubborn and it really says it all when James is not getting full minutes. He's had some injuries, but there've been rumors that he isn't happy with his playing time and i don't blame him. Things are about to get very bad, when we ship James back to Real Madrid. Also i have doubts over Kovac's ability to develop young players as his Eintracht team was pretty old.
    Dortmund on the other hand has very nice squad depth and their scouting seems to be on point. Favre is also doing a decent job and there's definitely something in that team.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    What the feck? Why would you appeal that? The kick was horrible and 2 games ban is very lucky, 3 would be fair as well
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    Peyroteo Professional Ronaldo PR Guy

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    Should be a one game suspension only, it was obviously accidental.

    Champions League bans don't work the same way as league bans.
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    To sign Arp = :houllier:
    €5m salary for Arp = :lol:

    I lived in Hamburg many years so i still follow the HSV......of course you can never know what happens and he's 19 but Arp is currently not even good enough for Hamburg (3 goals in 32 games).

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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Bayern supporter? I do think Bayern should be trying to sign Nicolas Pepe of Lille a similar player to Mahrez.
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    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    posted that in the wrong thread
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Like Hudson Odoi Arp was also one of the best players at the 2017 UEFA U17 Championships and the 2017 U17 World Cup
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    Acrobat7 Full Member

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    Neuer
    Kimmich - Boateng - Süle - Alaba
    Goretzka - Thiago
    Gnabry - James - Coman
    Lewandowski

    If Coman is truely good to go than I expect the above team against Liverpool. Boateng is faster than Hummels and I don’t see the point of Martínez playing.
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    SquishyMcSquish Full Member

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    I hope they've lubed up because Liverpool are going to feck them sideways.
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    MarkK Full Member

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    I agree that this would probably be the line-up he should chose but with Kovac being Kovac, I actually see
    Neuer
    Kimmich - Süle - Hummels - Alaba
    Martinez - Thiago
    Gnabry - Goretzka - Ribery
    Lewandowski

    Anyway, I would be more than surprised if we stand a chance. Unfortunately, our team is past it and the coaching is mediocre at best.
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    Acrobat7 Full Member

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    Liverpool‘s defense and midfield are nothing special and won’t scare Bayern. Their attack however...
    Liverpool are favorites, but don’t underestimate an experienced team like Bayern.
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    SquishyMcSquish Full Member

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    Liverpool's defence is the best in the Premier League, the midfield is relatively average but does a job. Van Djik missing for the first league so Bayern might have the chance to get some away goals, but tbh I can see them being overrun.

    Bayern might be experienced but they look so, so vulnerable this season. I'd love a Bayern win (not the biggest fan of Liverpool) but I just can't see it. Fully prepared to watch Liverpool romp home.
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    Anything than a Liverpool win would be a surprise for me.
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    Yeah with Van Dijk and Gomez....Lovren is probably out too.

    I expect 4-2 for Liverpool.
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    KC ROYAL Full Member

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    Any time I have seen Bayern this season, they look distinctly ill at ease, especially at the back. Last night against Augsburg was typical, they seem to be struggling to defend properly and are very often reliant on Lewandowski to bail them out. Muller also looks nowhere near the player he was a couple of years ago, also Ribery and Robben are both in the twilight of their careers.
    Suler looks poor under any sort of pressure, Hummels is a good defender but has no pace and Boateng can be wildly erratic. They almost seem to accept that they will concede and now have to rely on being able to outscore the opposition.
    It's a bit surprising that with their problems this seaon they are still only a few points behind Dortmund. The fact that Liverpool and Bayern both have defensive issues for the upcoming game means it could be a high-scoring encounter.
    There seems to be more than a few doubts about Kovac, Bayern supporters may well watch the games against Liverpool and think that Klopp would be the man they would want as their manager.
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    SquishyMcSquish Full Member

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    True. VVD being out is a big opportunity for Bayern in the first leg, sadly I think at Anfield I don't think Liverpool will rely all too much on their defence.
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    Surprised at the amount of people who think this.

    Bayern have been better last two months than the start of the season and Liverpool's level has dropped last few weeks in premier league.

    Also no VVD for first leg and even a full strength Liverpool back 4 would struggle with the quality Bayern have in final third.

    I can see the first leg being high scoring, maybe 3-2 Bayern and we're then set up for yet another famous comeback second leg at Anfield.

    Edit: Seems first leg is at Anfield.
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    Acrobat7 Full Member

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    What back 4 can we expect on Tuesday? Who is left in central defence?
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    I have no idea, in what shape liverpool is at the moment. Bayern is for sure better than in oktober/november 2018, but that is not hard to archive.

    Kimmich is poor in his positional play and bad at defending as long as i have seem him playing football - big weakpoint. Goretzka and James are also very bad in positional play, that's way Bayerns midfield looks bad so often. Maybe Javi will play on tuesday, but he has never been top notch since his realy bad injury in 2014. Müller is mediocre since 2016, Neuers performance in this season is very poor and overall Kovac thinks tactics are not that important. If Liverpool is somewho as good as i think, they will smash bayern down.
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    Alexander-Arnold and Robertson surely as full-backs......Matip as CB....with Fabinho or Henderson.
    Henderson has played as CB in few training sessions in Marbella.
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    Bayern are not that bad.

    VVD has yellow cards or?
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    SquishyMcSquish Full Member

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    At Anfield with the pace and intensity Liverpool will bring I expect Bayern to just be totally blown away.

    Bayern aren't bad but from the little I've watched them this season, Liverpool are everything they hate to face. Unless Kovac pulls something out the bag tactically I just can't see them handling Liverpool's pace and attacking movement.
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    :lol::lol::lol:
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    SquishyMcSquish Full Member

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    Yeah .. not exactly likely.