Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Logan!, Feb 24, 2010.
We, too, may suffer the same fate, chief.
Whatever happens in 2 weeks, they will still be in europe. Whether that's the Champions League or the Europa League, who knows? Same as us really.
If they fail to make the champions league then they will be in the europa league which can still be tricky and it plays chaos with your fixtures.
Its what us reds want tbh.
That's a myth, I think. Pretty much all of their first team have come from clubs that have played in the Champions League regularly, they're used to it.
But not as a team. It's completely different.
Europa League fucks you up more than CL. Those nasty Thursday nights.
And why does no-one think about the seeding. If City don't qualify it'll hold back their seeding for another year, giving them more chance of getting another tricky group next season.
The whole "I want City to qualify" shit baffles me, posters aren't thinking it through.
In any case I reckon the dent in confidence from discovering that everything they touch doesn't necessarily turn to gold would offset any benefit from the first team not playing during the week a maximum of 6 times over 4 months. As well of course as having to travel for the Europa League games.
I'd love a bit of Thursday night, channel 5 for City.
One less recovery day for the weekend
I just hope we don't end up there with them!
Basel need a win. A draw will suffice for us. I think that will suit our style of play.
Just wonder if Bayern will take the chance to knock them out or just send out a second string team given they have already won the group. Napoli winning in Villareal is not a done deal.
Bayern have been pretty vocal in their contempt for Shitty, so hopefully they will go all out to destroy them.
think Rumenigge had a go at Blatter about summat...not sure if it was about all these sugar daddy clubs...
I have always told my City pals that they need to be through before they meet Bayern at home, as whatever personnel Bayern put out at the Eti-Shed , I expect that Bayern will get a point at least.
I think City going out will be a confidence knocker, so all good news for me
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Europa League doesn't seem to be bothering Spurs. Maybe it's just assumed it causes problems for clubs because only shit ones like Liverpool and City have had a go at juggling it with top four aspirations in the past.
thanks for the post Lance.
you know I am liking what I am hearing from Rummenige.
Future FIFA president? He will make a good one. Has integrity.
They've been playing their youth/reserve side and Pavlyuchenko.
That's because we're largely fielding a 2nd/3rd string team.
Our last Europa match, for example, featured none of the players who started against Villa on Monday night.
Cheers and yep pretty firm words, so sounds like we should expect a full strength team out then. Ruminegge talks a lot of sense- the second division German club made me chuckle.
Bayern desperately wants to reach the final this year, especially as it's being played in their own ground. Knocking City out will eliminate a potentially dangerous opponent later in the tournament. I don't know much about Napoli to be honest, but I'd expect their squad to be much smaller than City's, which means that they'll most likely get worse as the season goes on. I don't think the same will happen to City with their massive squad.
I'm not really sure if it's better for us if City goes out or stays in. On one hand the extra CL games will be a nice distraction, and let's face it - they'll play a second string team if they go into Europa League, and still probably go very far. Could easily see them play a rather weakened team in one game and then put on some of their star players in the return leg, if they actually want to progress. Going out of the CL could be a big blow to their confidence though, which could very well outweigh the "positives" of playing fewer games.
I want them to go out though, as I think the confidence blow for going out in the group stage will mean more than not playing the extra games. I think playing CL keep the players maximum motivated. Also worth noting that we've won the league every time we've reached a final in Fergie's time.
They can gain almost as many points in the EL as they can in the CL. Last season Porto got 4th most points for winning the EL despite never being in the CL. Braga got 9th most for reaching the EL final after being knocked out in CL group stage.
If City finish 2nd they could draw Madrid or Barca and go out of the CL right away, gaining very little extra points. If they go into the EL they could go quite far and gain a lot of points with relative ease.
Clearly, many of the teams from outside of the PL will be concerned about the effect City is having on football as a whole and will be determined to put them out for the good of football. For this reason I'm hoping both Napoli and Bayern go all out to win their games
Do they not play second string players ere though?
One of the great myths of football, that being in the Champions League has some kind of monstrous negative effect on your league form.
The last 4 winners of the Champions League have won their domestic titles in the same season.
Manchester City are not Stoke or Fulham, they have big game players, they can cope, playing on a Wednesday night won't automatically turn them into a village side on the weekend.
They've played 4 previous group games in the CL this season and how many league defeats have they had? ZERO. They beat Villarreal on a weeknight and beat us 6-1 on the weekend, playing in midweek obviously had a devastating effect on them on that occasion .
Add that to the fact they have a massive (pun intended) squad and so would easily cope with League and CL demands. I want these fuckers knocked out.
Name a single team that went to champions league with zero experience in it and went on being great till the end of the season domestically?
That pretty much disqualifies him then, I should think.
They've spent 900 million on players who have played Champions League football on a regular basis.
Kompany, De Jong, Toure, Silva, Aguero, Balotelli, Dzeko are no strangers to the demands of Champions League or European Football.
This isn't a Stoke or Birmingham we're talking about here, this is the most expensive team assembled in the history of sport. We're not talking about some pub players who struck lucky and hit gold, these players know what is expected.
Oh and name me a team who went into the Champs Lge for the first time, got through to the knockout stages and performed poorly domestically.
They finished 5th. That's not really "poor" when you look at the teams that finished above them.
It was actually a fantastic achievement for those shitbags. Good call.
you do know Spurs will fall apart after ol arry is in the nick....
That would break my heart.
In all honesty, I would be a little disappointed. I want to see him make a monumental fuck up of the England job. See how his pals in the media react.
Their domestic form actually got worse after they'd been eliminated.
he will never get the England job mate.
even the FA are not that stupid.
Well, if they want an Englishman (and I believe they have been very careful to avoid stating that as fact, thus far), I don't see who else it could be.
apparently it is just a matter of time before he is in serious trouble...or is that all speculation?
If his 'problems' are behind him, yes he would be a good choice.
He is definitely to be tried for tax evasion, but I don't know enough about the case to ascertain what his chances are.
It's also a bloody good idea to put 1 strong team out of the competition- even if you can't meet 'em again 'til later.
Bayern have seen that one pinch 'em in the arse before now.
We played 'em 2 times in the '98 - '99 season before the wee Norwegian lad stuck a toe out.
I'll bet you they still wish we hadn't qualified.
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