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The job Allardyce did at Bolton is surely worth a documentary. Always a fun team to watch on days United weren't playing, played entertaining football despite the stereotypes and were always further up the table than you'd expect.
You should have Guðni Bergsson at CB.
Sam can always talk the talk and I think he is right when he says it was him. But a lot of these players he got had some sort of issues with their previous clubs. But what a team he had. They can play football and they can always kick too. That is why Arsene got so upset. They could play as well as Arsenal and they could kick a lot better than Arsenal. I do not think it has got anything to do with a bung because if these players had gone to bigger clubs their wages would have been much higher. He seems to get players that no one wants and get them to play for him.
Kevin Davies was a nightmare for CB's at that point. Old fashioned CF who gave out batterings on a weekly basis, afraid of no-one, outstanding with his back to goal and strong as a bull. His stats are shit but he used to bully defenders.
Kevin Davies was an absolute cnut who seemed intent every time we played Bolton on trying to injure as many players as he could.
True, and he had a comically large arse for a footballer.
He came after Allardyce but Gary Cahill was their best defender of the Premier League era.
A lot of their “big names” barely ever played or were only there for a short spell. Their typical Premier League lineup of the 2000s would probably be something like:
Hunt N’Gotty Ben Haim Gardner
Literally an anti-footballer.
They were a very decent side before the influx of star names. I remember Andy Walker and John Mcginley doing very well for them at the start of Big Sam's reign.
That influx of star names is the reason they are allegedly £100m in debt and can't afford to complete a deal for a Forest Green player.
This was before Allardyce. He didn’t take over till late 1999.
Really? Who was manager at the time?
Colin Todd? I'm sure Bruce Rioch was there at some point too.
Of course yeah, my bad.
I hated Bolton back then and their American football tactics that made every game about gaining a few yards before another set piece situation.
Not only that, they’ve used every foul in their favour as an offensive set piece, so it would take ages until their cb’s got into the opponents box and whatnot, horrendous tactics but it worked, so more power to them.
For some reason when i think about Bolton, I remember Johan Elmander and Owen Coyle in the sidelines wearing tees and shorts. Don't remember much else.
I think a at least some of their money issues stems for not being able to fill the stadium.
The game at the end of last season when they managed to stay up and had a pitch invasion and all that. Only 18,000 showed up (to a 28,000 stadium)
Even when they were in the PL, they'd only reach like 25/26,000 if United or Liverpool or whoever was visiting.
Being from Bolton, I remember in pubs on a saturday at 3pm there'd be loads of bolton fans watching them on dodgy satellite channels (even home games)
As a united fan this pissed me off cos of how hard it could be for us to actually get tickets to go to Old Trafford. And here these dickheads were watching their team play in a half-empty stadium on a dodgy TV channel, when they could go and actually support the team.
At one point their anti-football was ridiculously effective. It posed a problem to the flair of Arsenal football. Used every trick in the book you can imagine. Their pitch at the Reebok was atrocious and small, niggling fouls everywhere, bombarded you with 90 minutes of long balls to the box, even their throw ins were a fecking weapon.
Such a weird club. I never really realised as I was pretty young, but it's quite weird thinking of Bolton in the PL now. Just a bland northern town down the motorway. To be fair they were a good definition of a mid table PL club for a while too. Decent stadium, some good names on the teamsheet, could hold their own against the big teams.
I never realised they think we have a massive rivalry with them until I lived with someone from Bolton at uni. I always just saw them as a bogey team. But nah, they full on think it's a massive deal.
Side note - Middlebrook was a dream to go as a teenage kid with a few mates and some girls you fancied.
They had to send a player (Christian Doidge) back to Forest Green a few days ago, he'd been loan with view to a permanent transfer. They hadn't even paid his wages for the last few months. They are going to get relegated bar a miracle of all miracles and I think they could seriously sink without a trace.
Where's Gary Speed?
when you put it like that
Is that supposed to be funny?
What's funny about it? He played for Bolton in the 2000s.
I thought the poster meant where is he now.
No, I meant if you're discussing a team of Bolton in the 00s, you'd include Speed regardless of being towards the end of his career. Thought the question was self explanatory in the context of the thread.
(As a Welshman who met Gary a few times, I wouldn't make any joke/ignorant comment about him. Also one of my favourite non United players.... perfect football pro).
Sorry mate my mistake, as you were.
Not a problem.
Exactly, at school the Bolton fans were obsessed with hating United. We didn't even acknowledge Bolton - to us it was just another game. It was their cup final. I think this holds true for a lot of teams up and down the county still. Random teams like Stoke think they have a rivalry with us.
While at Bolton, Sam Allardyce banned his players from shooting from outside the penalty area.
If that doesn’t sum up his complete and utter joylessness, I don’t know what does.
Oh yeah, I remember. That awful tactic they used for a while when they’d have Kevin Davies stand a mile offside, marking the goalkeeper before attacking free kicks. For no other reason than just to be complete dicks.
Juninho was prime though, could of been player of the year
To be fair, Juninho had about twelve spells at Middlesbro.
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