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Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Silva, Jun 24, 2016.

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    Zarlak my face causes global warming

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    Truth like rain don't give a feck who it falls on.
    She's only doing that so nobody can watch the 'one woman gets fecked by entire house of commons' uploads when her deal fails again.
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    Tarrou Full Member

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    has she ever answered a bloody question properly in her life
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    Wibble In Gadus Speramus Staff

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    So assuming the deal either gets voted down again or isn't changed so no vote can take place what then happens on 12th April?

    We agree to a long extension including taking part in European elections?

    Or?
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    The most sensible option - revoke Article 50
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    Tarrou Full Member

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    May said about 3/4 times she didn't want to take part in the European elections when she just spoke, and she made is explicitly clear we're definitely still leaving.

    That only leaves her deal or no deal. And we all know her deal will be shot down so...
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    Devil_forever You're only young once, you can be immature f'ever

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    From May herself:
    Like I said previously no chance of no deal happening, ever.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    "I've been absolutely clear about answering bloody questions properly in my life."
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    Devil_forever You're only young once, you can be immature f'ever

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    Look at the quote in my post above, she seems to indicate that we will take part in the EU elections now.
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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    Will May survive her deal being rejected once more? I doubt it. At which point what May said matters an awful lot less. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time she's backtracked on something she said.
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    altodevil Just another Duffy

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    She's the proverbial unflushable turd
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    Tarrou Full Member

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    That quote cuts off the bit where she implied she didn't want that to happen, and she reiterated that sentiment a few times.
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    Tarrou Full Member

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    That's true, then its up to Boris...
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    caid Full Member

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    Sounds great!
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    madzo2007 Full Member

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    Question time was from my part of the world (Belfast) and I surprised at how sensible most of the comments/questions were from the audience...... the politicians on the other hand :rolleyes:
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    Smores Full Member

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    Quite noteworthy that when asked about her words and the abuse/death threats MPs have received she not only refused to apologise but didn't even come out against them. If anything she excused them as 'passionate views on all sides'
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    The Firestarter Full Member

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    No more equid asphyxiation for you !
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    Theresa Trump.
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    Dante Bang Average but can post Blindfolded for 15 secs

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    stevoc Full Member

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    No one will be able to afford it in a few months when the Government get desperate and impose major tariffs on the import of class a drugs into the country.
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    Well, With that decision I change my opinion on Revoking art 50 on 99.9% to 0.01% . If I am not wrong, after the 29, whichever is the extension, the UK can't revoke art50 (please, someone to correct me). SO yes, now, the default will be No Deal, because, the morons, will feel like they still have 14 days more to do something if they reject May's deal....but sure is not revokation. Now it is May's deal or No deal
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    711 Full Member Scout

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    We might not have the automatic right to revoke A50, but it would still be possible by agreement. So not 99.9% or 0.01%, but something in between. 99.9% was a bit odd anyway to be honest, but each to their own.
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    4bars Full Member

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    Well, my 99.9% was because brexit is not ready for a No Deal, whatever the MP say. Not by legislation, not in contingency.

    Asking the EU to be back is quite different than revoking article 50. If the latest would be swallowing UK MPs pride, would be under the UK control. Begging the EU to be in again (and of course re-trigger article 50 even less unlikely), bretraying the "will of the people" and so, would be something worth to behold. And still, would not be revocation
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    4bars Full Member

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    By the way, said extension shouldn't be approved by the UK parliament? the HoC only voted on an extension to the 30th of June
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    Twisted_Woody Full Member Scout

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    Seems a bit crazy to not be bothered. Then again, if they truly aren't bothered then why all the fuss? No deal and be done with it.
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    Stolen from hignfy.s53*09
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    Smores Full Member

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    No you're wrong, it can be done until the withdrawal agreement comes into force. So we either have until April 12th or for how long the 'long delay' is agreed to be.
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    sglowrider Against Oral Equality

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    4bars Full Member

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    So if Theresa May can't get the WA, so there is an extension till the 12th of April, the UK can revoke article 50 even if that right was during 2 years, not during 2 years and 14 days? or those 14 days are just for preparations for No deal?
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    prateik Full Member

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    May needs a plan B.

    Selling Fellaini was a mistake..
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    GloryHunter07 Full Member

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    Long Extension with a GE / 2nd ref / Norway+ compromise

    Or No Deal

    Or Revoke & remain.

    That last option still seems the least likely (but most appealing).
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    P-Nut fan of well-known French footballer Fabinho

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    I've come to accept that it's not happening. As shit as it is I'd prefer a Norway+ at this point, although it seems like spiting yourself for zero reason, no deal is just doing it to a worse extent
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    GloryHunter07 Full Member

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    She would get overthrown if she tried to take us down the no-deal route. Lets get MV3 out of the way early and work on Plan B.
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    GloryHunter07 Full Member

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    Norway + (Brexit in name only) seems like the least worst solution if we cannot remain.
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    P-Nut fan of well-known French footballer Fabinho

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    Yeah exactly, basically giving ourselves no vote but still being in. I'll take it at this point though.
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    CA_vampire Full Member

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    Open Extension is the solution! :)

    The article 50 will remain invoked, and the UK will definitely leave the EU ... when it is ready.
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    sun_tzu The Art of Bore

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    Gut feel... Mv3 will be very hard to win now as the date of the 12th leaves open no deal for the erg and leaves open long extension for remainers

    Mv3 I think now fails...

    I don't think she will authorize a referendum so my guess is she calls a ge the evening that mv3 fails... Could this be organised in time to have the votes at the same time as EU elections as well?

    Edit... I'll also add I think the conservatives win the election... Fptp and they will be the ones pushing for a hard brexit whilst the rest of the votes are split.

    Then post election with a decent majority it's perhaps one more try at mv4 or straight to managed no deal... Aka hard brexit... And a leadership election consisting of who says the nastiest things about the eu
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    Pexbo has never watched Star Wars

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    I think long term the EU are now starting to believe that No Deal will work out better for them than the current WA.

    We will be in a much weaker position than the EU, struggling to form beneficial deals with meaningful trading partners. They know we won’t be able to hard ball from a position of weakness.
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    LARulz Full Member

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    So the presenter of Sky News said he got a message from an MP and thinks the following will happen:

    Her deal will get beaten next week
    Parliament ask for a long extension
    She resigns
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    devilish Juventus fan who used to support United

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    In my opinion it would be a huge mistake for the EU if it grants the long extension. Europe needs to move on from Brexit and forcing the UK in after voting out would be madness. Let the UK crush, let them face the consequences of their delusions and if they want to return back to the EU then offer them a fast track way in (on terms offered to new members)