Brexit | Stupid vs. Cretinous winner takes all

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  1. Jun 24, 2016
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    Silva Full Member

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    Pound already at it's lowest in 30 years, markets taking a thrashing, calls for independence referendums in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Whispers that Brussels will look to make an example of us. Just how bad will the shit show get? Or is there light at the end of the tunnel?
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    Ubik Full Member

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    I believe this is a train, covered in spiders.
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    Good luck to all of you living there. Bleak times ahead for you.
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    What kind of demands will the EU make? I can see Spain saying they will veto any deal that doesn't give them Gibraltar for example.
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    The Transfer Forum could get really boring.
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    vi1lain caf sexpert

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    Independence referendum for Scotland & NI are fair calls to make, they voted overwhelmingly majority to stay, compared to England & Wales.
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    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

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    Would NI band together with Scotland or (dare I say - yes, on a night like tonight I do) the ROI?
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    Rado_N Yaaas Broncos!

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    Strap yourselves in, we're about to experience our own great depression.
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    vi1lain caf sexpert

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    ROI more likely, but honestly who knows at this point?
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    Nick 0208 Ldn News 24

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    Adam Boulton has just spoken about rumours in Labour circles of calls for Corbyn to resign as leader.
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    ROI, that's already been called for by a NI politician who was quoted in the vote thread.
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    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

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    As a history person, and a descendant of people from Antrim, this could get quite interesting then.
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    Cheesy Bread with dipping sauce Scout

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    Independence please.
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    I sincerely hope this doesn't harm the Scotch Whiskey industry. I do love Oban so very much.
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    Will happen. If we're going to fight off UKIP in the north he cannot be leader.
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    Pexbo has never watched Star Wars

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    We now get to make our own trade agreements and play by our own rules... Which will be a huge advantage as the queue to trade with us dwindles and dwindles.
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    adexkola Arsenal supporter Verified Moaner City Lover

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    What the feck have you cnuts done? Markets are gonna be haywire in a few hrs when we wake up here.
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    There has already been NI politicians saying they want to engage in a debate to merge with ROI.

    After today, I truly believe that anything is possible; no matter how stupid, reckless, or whatever else.
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    I'm starting to wish Liz Kendall won the leadership.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    Christ there's going to be some real whiney end of the world shit in here isn't there?
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    I'm imagining it will all look a bit like Fallout by the end of it.
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    The greatest example in a long time why you don't do full blown democracy. Average person is dumb and then half them are even dumber.
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    Just saw on Sky that Sinn Fein is going to call for a unification referendum as early as today.
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    Cheesy Bread with dipping sauce Scout

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    Wouldn't have made a difference either way tbh.
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    Nick 0208 Ldn News 24

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    Do you think they should make a long term appointment, or someone who can get to grips with the Brexit issue straight away? Jarvis or Cooper you might say.
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    Rudie Mentary

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    Pretty much. I can't wait!
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    Cheesy Bread with dipping sauce Scout

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    As long as Labour continue to support immigration substantially it's unlikely any leader is going to make a significant different in the north. That seems to be the harsh reality if this referendum and last year's election are anything to go by.
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    A summary of the key things I think that will happen:

    - Pound will continue to fall but eventually rise a bit and stabilise in a week or two. But similar to the level it is now.
    - The disparity in the UK but also within England itself cannot be ignored. In my view Scotland will certainly push for independence and will get it, NI may do something but I just don't know enough about sentiment in NI. Within England... I really don't know. But it's so big that it can't be ignored.
    - Multinationals will seriously be considering moving out of London. It is all linked. One of the reasons for London is its access to European markets - gone. Another reason is because of its access to financial services - and they are intrinsically linked.
    - Cameron must call a general election and resign. Corbyn should also resign.
    - The EU is in trouble. Internal pressure from EU sceptic parties (although I really don't know enough about some of the countries to know how significant sentiment is against the EU in Europe) may cause further similar votes. The economy will suffer because of the potential of such votes.
    - We will go into recession for sure.
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    Don't know. Not even saying this from left/right point of view, it may well be that someone on Corbyn's side of the party resonates more with northern voters, but he himself is not the one that can do it.

    But maybe the party are just fecked.
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    This could be massive for the border counties in Ireland. Border patrols are going to be a massive headache and political suicide for anybody willing to push for it. Odds are this wont happen and have some concessions to get around this.
    These counties become a legal smuggling enterprise onto ourselves. A gateway to deal with the EU and be on the right side of this mess.
    This either becomes huge for us in Donegal etc or our daily life just becomes a little bit more awkward.
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    Shit, meet fan.
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    To be fair they do that every time Corbyn leaves the room. Nothing new.
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    To be honest, I like Corbyn
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    What were the positives again?
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    He's a sweetheart, but it's like sending a kitten to a dog fight.
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    He's a nice bloke but never a leader.
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    EU will be very very tough in any negotiations to keep the other 27 in line. This would be a long drawn painful process.

    I cant even begin to think what happens if Cameron falls and there is a re-election.
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    Grinner Fat gutted, hairy shouldered, stinky Arse. Staff

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    You stupid cnuts...
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    Nail on the head. fecking Morons everywhere.
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    I'm abroad so didn't vote. Feel indifferent about it all really. I think the vote represents people of the U.K. not feeling represented by any political parties and that extends to the EU. From what I've read/heard I think this vote was about a lot more than the EU tbh. Majority of politicians are clearly out of touch.

    I was kind of leaning towards leave (not confident that the EU can carry on without huge problems in the long term) but most of my family wanted to remain so I'd have preferred that outcome really.

    I am interested to see what happens in Europe now. From what I understand the UK aren't alone in having an unfavourable view of the EU.