Brian McClair interview | Ex-United academy director talking Lingard, McTominay and Pogba

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    Wouldn't mind reading the whole thing and see what he says about Ravel.
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    Check the screenshots in the second tweet.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    What I find most interesting about that is that he puts Scott in the group with Marcus and Jesse as the best players in their age groups all the way through their development. Most people on here would tell you that Scott was never anything special and only got the nod from Jose because of his size.
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    poleglass red Full Member

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    Players that are special is not what we need right now, we've enough of them, what we don't have are enough team players. That been one of our criticisms this season, that we play like a bunch of individuals. Players like McTominay and even Lingard aren't blessed with outrageous skill, but they are team players. No surprise that Matic played his best game since the start of the season v Chelsea with McTominay in alongside him. Playing v his old team didn't hurt either but having McTominay in there helps him massively. He could also help Pogba as well in that regard. Both players very brave as well, that whack McTominay took the other week. Got hit, took his treatment and then back into the mix, great to see. Even City for all their skill, they still need a Fernandinho in there as well. Teams need a balance of skill and grit. Pogba's confidence a bit low right now, but with a solid platform of Matic and McTominay in a 3 with could be crucial, certainly in big games until the end of the season.
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    Schmiznurf Full Member

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    What a load of shit, he got the nod because we needed someone in midfield because of the injuries and issues we had, McTominay was clearly the best player for that and he took his chance and showed Jose he was right to put his faith in him. Nothing to do with size at all.
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    Great stuff, I'll have a read later.

    Also Brian has got a very strong look going on.
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    I agree. But I did see plenty of those posts.
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    Schmiznurf Full Member

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    It doesn't surprise me to be honest, people tend to look at things from a skewed perspective.
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    mark_a Full Member

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    Very strong. In fact, is he actually now Aidan Moffat?
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    Always comes across as a thoughtful, intelligent chap.
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    ValenciaRocks New Member

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    Could not agree more with this.

    Absolutely spot on. It's the players that know the club through and through that usually provide that grit. The academy players who have both underlying determination and accompanying skills to provide the core of the team, and foreign mavericks who provide the team with unrivalled flair.

    Like you said, the key is balance. It's unlikely that the first 11 are going to be academy players (unless your Barcelona) but you hope that at least 3 or 4 of them are.

    It makes us prouder as fans to have these sorts of players coming through and it also segregates us from our neighbours.
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    He's talking shit if he said that. McTominay has got the nod because his competition was Redmond and Willock in which Redmond is rubbish and Willock is decent technically but not much else. He has obviously impressed in training and has been OK in his appearances. To claim he was up with Rashford and Jesse as the best players in their age group is just non-sense though. Axel is at the top of his age group, McTominay has never been spoken in the same breath as him. Unless he is considering Axel as the next year in which case McTominay's year group was just a bit shit and CBJ was probably the highest rated.
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    Well, that's the thing. Maybe the internal views on him did not lead to external hype. He's obviously talking about his whole youth career with us, so it's not just the last 2-3 years where other players have looked good, as he said, he's had an injury (didn't he?) and the growth spurt that stalled him a bit.
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    There are numerous posters here who know internal staff and who is rated highly from all age groups all the way down. McTominay was never in the bracket with Rashford or Lingard.
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    I find it hard to believe that the coaches internally thought Mctominay was the best or one of the best in his age group. He has been fine, did well for us in a limited role. But to say he was always thought of as the best??? Highly doubt that. Think he just threw his name in there.

    Unless @jb8521 or @khoazany or one of the other more knowledgeable posters know more about it.
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    Would be interesting to clear that up.
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    He does look like he was the runt of the litter doesn't he?
    No wonder he's impressed a few managers. He's obviously had to battle it out a bit.
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    Oh yeah, thanks!
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    djdhrubs Full Member

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    What a beard!

    He used to infuriate the hell out of me always shooting too close to the goalkeeper. Also he had one of the most boring diaries which he used to write for some United fanzine back in the day, called 'Choccie's diary'.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    Choccy's diary was mint.
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    I find this ironic when it appears this is what Jose expected him to be
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    Best thing about the magazine for me!
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    Same. Choccy's sense of humour was always spot on. I wonder why he hasn't gone into punditry. He would be great in it.
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    Please can you name a player (in recent times) that is from the academy of any club in the EPL, which has demonstrated the maturity and tactical awareness of McTomminay. The lad is beyond his years.

    Plus, how do you know axel was rated higher at youth level? Just curious
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    Yep, always looked forward to the latest Chochys Diary. Best part of the mag.

    That pic... almost shocked to see him look like that now.Looks a far cry from his cheerful, youthful demeanour.
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    McClair is one of the reasons our Academy was still in the dark ages until the recent revamp.
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    So we are now taking the words of ITK's rather than the person who ran our academy for 15 years :houllier:
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    McClair's quote relates to the youngest age groups. He does not say McTominay was the best in his age group. He says if you asked the coaches of the youngest age groups (meaning primary school age kids 7-11), they would say Rashford, Lingard and McTominay.

    There is an article in the Guardian today which contains a passage that supports McClair's opinion regarding McTominay's ability as a child. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/02/scott-mctominay-manchester-united-road
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    I think he's talking about what the scouts/coaches saw in him in the younger age groups. He was always in the squads or the foreign tournaments and played up an age group in some which is usually a good sign that the coaches rate a player. In terms of what they actually showed on the pitch I'd say Henderson, Borthwick-Jackson, Riley & Mitchell were probably the stand outs from his age group.
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    I love how a forum can decide what McTominay was like at youth level despite the majority not watching our youth sides. Don’t mean you btw @jb8521

    McTominay is a very good player. People who don’t see it don’t understand football. There’s a reason he’s starting for us and both the SFA and English FA are trying to cap him.
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    Why do you think Riley never kicked on? Always felt he did ok in his limited first team appearances?
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    I think he's stagnated a bit from staying at u23s level too long although he was unlucky with the injury he got on loan last season. Personally I thought he deserved more first team chances after how well he played when he got his chance.
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    This. The talent is very clear to see. But for some reason people decide he's average because he doesn't make defence splitting passes.
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    It was the official united magazine. I've got them all.
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    Loved Choccy wish he was still at the club.
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    He did used to fudge it sometimes though
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    Because he's national performance director for Scotland.

    I've just seen he left the post.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    Everyone in here knows what I think of ex players coming back as coaches mainly because of their connection with the club. However, when Choccy returned I was happy. Jeez I missed his diary whom I read religiously up until the mag got too ridiculously expensive to buy.

    I find most players to be either stupid (Owen and Savage), with an axe to grind (Hargreaves), boring (Phil, Becks etc) or psychos (Keane). Choccy was damn funny and with a tinge of some solid know how of what he's talking about. That's a rare thing in football.
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    I loved him when he was here.