Bruno Fernandes

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Walters_19_MuFc, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. Apr 14, 2019

    Nou_Camp99 Full Member

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    We will have to play a diamond if we keep Pogba and sign this fellow.

    Don't think he will work in a 433 with Pogba and I don't want Pogba playing deeper in a 2 either in a 4231
  2. Apr 14, 2019

    Charles Miller New Member

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    With a DM/destroyer its possible to play Pogba-Bruno Fernandes. Same way Real Madrid use to play Kroos-Modric.
  3. Apr 14, 2019

    Nou_Camp99 Full Member

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    Not sure Pogba is disciplined enough. No idea on this new guy. Only seen bit of him but he does look decent.

    We do need a DM though.
  4. Apr 14, 2019

    Scholsey2004 Full Member

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    Pogbas our biggest assist maker and I believe our top scorer. If he was playing aa disciplined role he couldn't do that. People's expectations are a little unreasonable. He could easily play like Eric dier but I don't see how that would improve us.
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    Valar Morghulis Full Member

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    If we sign this guy then our midfield would be screaming out for Declan Rice, who is one of the most natural DMs I've ever seen.

    Pogba-----Bruno
    ------Rice------
  6. Apr 14, 2019

    DownRiver New Member

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    Reminds of a player to the mould of KDB. I think he will complement Pogba more than hinder him because he will take off the pressure him. Opposition know that Pogba is our main playmaker and is not even a no.10 (which is not good).
  7. Apr 15, 2019

    The Irish Connection Full Member

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    Jesus! Sign this lad please, we have a safety net then if pogba decides he wants out in the next season or two.
    That header he scored in the last game was brilliant.
  8. Apr 15, 2019

    Cheekiey Full Member

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    Was going to comment the same thing regarding KDB, he'd be a great addition
  9. Apr 15, 2019

    Saf94 Full Member

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    You can only really fit a midfield or Bruno and Pogba together if you have either a really solid defence or play an extremely possession orientated style.

    Just getting a good dm won’t help cover spaces left by 2 attacking midfield players. You have to either be comfortable letting your centre backs be isolated (which we definitely can’t do with our current defence) or push really high up and play a City style where they expect to have most of the possession and try to win the ball back with the high press.

    Right now I wouldn’t feel confident at all that we can fit Bruno into the team and moreover I worry about the strategy of just signing the best players available with no plan on how to fit them
  10. Apr 15, 2019

    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    I tend to agree with this but even then I don’t think he and Pogba would be that good playing in the manner you speak of to nullify their defensive frailties. Both seem to like space and to work in to space and if you played in a tight manner for me they’d be wasting their talents.

    Maybe if we went to a 352 it could work better with them allowing them freedom.
  11. Apr 15, 2019

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    I disagree completely. We should be looking exactly at signing the best players available. How to set up the team should be secondary and down to the manager to figure out.
    We cant execute our transfer strategy just from what might be considered our "first" line-up and that player one might not be totally compatible with player two. In todays football no team really plays their "first eleven" in more than a few games every season. Injuries, rotation will see to that.
    Fernandes is a really good player and seems to be not crazy expensive. We need to replace both Fellaini and as it seems Herrera and possibly Pereira as well. We should be looking at two or even three players in at CM this summer. I rather see would see us concentrate to get the best possible talent into the squad than focusing on FM-setups or "compatibility". Good players can always play together. I dont believe that many people thought that Silva and De Bruyne would theoretically make an excellent CM-pairing either.
    We should look at quality and potential over anything else.
  12. Apr 15, 2019

    RedCurry Full Member

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    Youtube does make him look good. I am sold.
  13. Apr 15, 2019

    Snafu17 Full Member

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    He also looks like a number 10 more than a CM. Spending 70 million on a player that doesn't play in a position where we desperately need reinforcements doesn't seem like the best idea, considering the amount of money we'll have to spend anyway.
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    AgentP Full Member

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    But I think we do need someone in this position. Our squad lacks creative players and goal scorers from midfield. He is good at set pieces and takes penalties as well which is an added bonus. Right now, the whole creative burden rests on Pogba. Having two dangerous midfielders will make us more unpredictable and harder to defend against.
  15. Apr 15, 2019

    Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo

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    Totally no brainer signing. This is an AM that works as hard as Bernardo Silva. Both defensively and offensively
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    Pogba and Fred/Mctominay in CM, this guy in AMC and Sancho as a RW this summer, that would look a LOT better.

    I can't wait to see this guy scoring some thunderbastards at old trafford. We've lacked a real long range weapon since Scholes.
  17. Apr 15, 2019

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    I've seen way too many Youtube compilations of Depay and Pogba soring screamers/free kicks, so not incredibly excited by that video.
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    Snafu17 Full Member

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    Yeah but playing both Pogba and Fernandes in a midfield 3 against the bigger teams is just asking for trouble. It just doesn't seem balanced. With Herrera likely leaving, we'll need a new B2B, someone who will add a bit of steel and energy into our midfield. I don't think neither Fred nor McTominay can be depended on throughout the whole season, as much promise at they may show.
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    AgentP Full Member

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    We don't have to play them both against top teams. Maybe we can just get Rabiot on a free and rotate them depending on the match.
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    Vanya Full Member

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    my thoughts exactly. He could have a KDB like role. He's comfortable in all areas of the pitch and his defensive work rate is good. He's also the right profile age -wise. We should be going for productive players around 23-24 rather than teenagers or 28-29 yr old that are nearing the end of their prime.
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    Snafu17 Full Member

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    Yeah but that's a lot of money for a player that won't start the big games and we also have to buy a RB, CB and RW, at least one of which will likely cost up to 100 million.
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    Kush Full Member

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    9 pages and not a single YT video? YouTube makes him look like Portugese KDB!

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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Saf94 Full Member

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    But this has shown time and time again to not work. Look at Coutinho at Barca, great player but doesn’t fit because he can’t play the midfield 3 role and isn’t their best option on the left wing. Also how many players have we signed who had this same issue? Di Maria, Mkhi, Kagawa, Mata - most of these guys were played out of position or we couldn’t fit them into the team. You can’t just throw money at players with 0 plan and expect it to work, you have to have some idea of how the player will fit into the team and with the rest of the players.

    Where would we play Bruno? We don’t play with a number 10, if we tried to play with a number 10 we’d be desperately weak in midfield as you need to cms behind the number 10 who can cover that whole area of the pitch. That’s an extremely demanding role and definitely not something either Pogba or Fred could play. This signing just doesn’t make sense in any way unless we expect to ship out guys like Pogba and Fred.

    I’m not saying you need to tactically plan your entire 11 and only sign to fit those roles but you can’t sign a player who literally doesn’t fit with any system your current players can play
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    People worry about his defensive capabilities because of how absurdly productive he has been on the offensive front. His workrate is excellent and will be a fantastic replacement for herrera.
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    JJ12 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Snafu17 Full Member

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    It's mostly because he largely seems to play as a number 10. Work rate is only one aspect of defending.
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    Smashin Full Member

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    He plays mostly as a 8/10 but he is given alot of freedom, since he's busy carrying the whole team.
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    Rocknrolla69er New Member

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    Intrigued by this guy and im intrigued by the cafes Mourinhoesque safety first mentality

    You look at man city and they have two offensive midfielders in front of Fernandinho or Gundogan, in David Silva and Bernardo Silva, as well as the attacking De Bruyne

    So when people are saying this guy can only play Pogbas role why is that?

    Cant we be more ambitious and play with two attack minded central midfielders?

    Can this guy work hard like Bernardo Silva?

    Why be so limited?
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    StrettyEnder07 Full Member

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    Can I just ask, how come Madrid/Barca/City can all play with one DMC but whenever anyone talks about us doing the exact same thing people go crazy.

    Much rather see us attack, show a bit of creativity and pin teams back than play on the counter attack against West Ham/Watford/Southampton at home because god forbid we actually play an attacking style.

    Shaw Alderweireld/Koulibaly Lindelof Meunier/Wan Biasska
    Rice
    Bruno Pogba

    Not sure what the issue is, if City can do it with De Bruyne and Silva I am sure that we can handle it with them two.
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    Snafu17 Full Member

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    Oh, go away. It's about balance. Bar the one Pep team in the league with a very specific play style, everyone else has a at least two traditional CMs in their midfield. If we suddenly decide to press as high, as intense and as consistently as City are, then yeah sure we can go ahead and buy another 10 offensive midfielders for all I care.
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    StrettyEnder07 Full Member

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    He's not wrong to be fair, he has asked you a question that most fans would ask and you have zero answer, if you're happy with having one CM who can play a ball forward and not panic in possession, midfielders who create nothing and score even less and we can't get out of our own half due their only qualities being defensive, then you crack on go and buy another 10 DMC's for all we care.

    It is about balance though, and if you think we currently have the balance right, you're a long long way short, against the bigger sides they could be rotated, only play one, similar to a lot of the top sides but to only have ONE CM who has the capabilities of creating anything is ridiculous.
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    Rocknrolla69er New Member

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    Im genuinley intrigued and made some valid points

    For a team that want its attacking flair back, do you not think were stifled by this need for safety first?

    Ok transfer David and Bernardo Silva to our team wouldnt you play them both central midfield if not then why?

    Good attacking players can also be trusted to work and harry and recycle possession if your brave enough like Pep to trust in them

    I put it down to mentality, some people are afraid to take risks and have faith, probably much of the problem with Mourinho and Van Gaal

    Or we could always carry in playing Matic, Herrera, Fellaini type midfilders together and moaning on here
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    Snafu17 Full Member

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    I mean I had an answer. It's literally written right there in that post you quoted. There's one successful manager that implements that kind of midfield and style of play. Trying to replicate Pep's midfield while not applying that same style very likely won't work.

    Yeah, great, I agree. I'm not sure why you think I'm happy or why do you think I don't want us to buy a midfielder. I never said I think we currently had the balance right, that is your invention. I said I would prefer we wouldn't spend an extraordinary amount of money on a player that plays in the exact same position that our star player already occupies. Sure, Fernandes might be able to transition into a B2B midfielder but spending that amount money on a "might" is a bit risky. You seem to think that a normal CM isn't able to be creative which is just weird.
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    He's a late bloomer? I don't recall him playing in the world cup last year for Portugal. It was always William and Moutinho in central midfield and occasionally Sanches yes?
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    I posted this in the other thread about him. We should merge both.
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    SportingCP96 Full Member

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    Sanches was never even called up. Bruno was on the bench.
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    Kush Full Member

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    As a Sporting fan do you think he has what it takes to step up to a giant club like United? Also, given our current squad where does he fit in, and in what formation?
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    Really, it all just depends on the style of play the manager is trying to implement. David Silva and KDB, even Bernardo Silva and Eriksen were pure AMs when they came here. They were able to transition into hard working mids who are great in the final third.

    We have enough inconsistency amongst the young talents in our team as it is with the likes of Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Lindelof, Scott etc. Priority wise, what our team first needs is players in the range 23-26 who are at the cusp of turning their potential into consistency. When the team has a stable set of performers, then we can focus on getting the best youth talents. Don't get me wrong, Felix, Sancho have world class potential and I would like nothing better than to get them. But, in our current condition, spending 100m plus on players who may or may not reach their peak won't improve our current team and situation. Bruno is at the right age to make the move and in the right setup could turn our average midfield sans Pogba into a top tier one.

    Look at City and Liverpool template of transfers. Recently, their most successful signings have been players like Salah, Mane, Van Dijk, KDB, Sterling, Bernardo, Laporte, Ederson, Allison who were at the right time and age to make the jump from potential to consistent.