Calum Chambers

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  1. Dec 28, 2017
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    AP88 Full Member

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    Starting for Arsenal tonight - the best young British central defender, who’s development has naturally been Wenger’d, but was quality for Boro on loan last season.

    Reminds me of Alderweireld in style, and would be an ideal long-term partner for Bailly.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    Moved to the Football Forum. This is his first PL start (in his actual position and not shunted out at RB) since last season. I think the only reason he's even playing is because of how bad they were defensively against Liverpool.
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    Theafonis In love with @Eboue

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    I feel like Wenger has his personal favorites in the Arsenal squad and Chambers isn’t in that list. Kind of sucks for him because he looked solid at Boro from the few matches I watched and seems to be composed on the ball, deserves to start regularly.

    I realize he was out for 2 months with an injury this season but he hasn’t played much under Wenger.
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    Have I just stepped into the twilight zone?
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    ThierryHenry wishes he could watch Arsenal games with KM

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    We've really not helped his development, particularly playing him at right back when he clearly wasn't suited for it.

    There's a lot to like though - he'll definitely be starting for a top half Prem team in two or three years time. I just feel like it's unlikely to be us.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    Yeah, he played there for Middlesbrough against us and Martial took the piss out of him.
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    Shouldn't have left Southampton. Shouldn't have joined Arsenal. Shouldn't have been played at right back. Shouldn't have played at centre mid. Arsenal really really fecked him up.
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    ThierryHenry wishes he could watch Arsenal games with KM

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    Good on the ball but a John Terry-esque turning circle - no idea why managers think it's a smart idea.
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    Everytime I see him I just wonder where the hype about him actually came from.

    He was supposed to be a decent RB at Southampton, he played in that position for Arsenal and got destroyed and they haven't risked him there since.

    He is a very medicore CB, lacks pace so constantly has to tug back players when they run past him like tonight so he gets plenty of cheap yellows.
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    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    Good on the ball syndrome.
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    He haven't played a game for a long time in the league and had to play next to Bellerin.

    He was one of the best in the Europe League and in the Carabao Cup, but wasn't easy to deal with the pace of Zaha.
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    Arsenal don't play high calibre opponents in those competitions.

    Rare occasions he plays against a decent team, he really struggles. He played CB against Crouch and Stoke a few years back and Arsenal lost 3-2. Just remembered he was actually sent off in that game aswell.
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    Was absolutely nowhere near being the ‘best young British central defender’ at any point in his career. Bang average.
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    Of couse there are not the high calibre opponents, but Crystal Palace isn't one too for me.

    It was year ago, he had a good year on loan for Middlesborough. After Monreal he could be the best CB with the ball, very calm and good passes. He needs play time, he surely isn't the fastest.
    Merte retires after the season, Koscielny struggles, Mustafi is good and we will see, how Chambers will work after more games.
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    TBH Boro played an ultra defensive game in the premier league, Karanka played for an 0-0 every game pretty much so it's easier in that situation when you have a deep defence to shine.

    Ben Gibson was getting loads of praise this time last year. I see the talk of him moving to Chelsea has died down now he's back in the championship.

    Another game I remember, start of last season when Liverpool won 4-3 at the Emirates. Chambers-Holding the combination that day.

    Holding was great in the cup final. Less so this season but then he did come from Bolton for a couple of million. That's a player with some decent coaching could be a good find for Arsenal.
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    Can we observe how the 'best young British defender' let's Morata in 1v1 three times...

    Awful defender, and a classic example of how people over-rate penalty box campers. Put some of these players in situtations like the above where they have to be aware and track runners and defend a lot of space around and behind them and they're exposed for how little ability to defend they actually have.
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    Robbie Boy Full Member

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    He's terrible.
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    Never rated him.
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    Tarkowski is the next one they’re hyping.
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    He was awful. Never rated him, he always has a feck up in him. Last night I'm sure there was one time when Morata got between him and Mustafi and instead of chasing him down he stood there blaming Mustafi (until it was too late) whilst Morata went from 3-4 m away to 10 m away and bearing down on goal. I was like WTF !?
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    I've known (and obviously been watching him play) since he was 16/17.

    Steaks ahead of any defender he played with or against at youth level...real class act. Seems to get a hard time for making mistakes when he gets the odd game at Arsenal - but what defender, especially young ones, come in and immediately turn out immaculate displays. If a defender makes a mistake, it gets picked up a lot more as it usually leads to a chance/goal. He just needs games and a bit of backing, if he gets that he'll do very well...as seen last year at Boro.

    Not sure Arsenal is the right place for him though. Limited chances at a run in the team and very twitchy fans, especially at home.

    ...he's a big United fan too.
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    He's regressed so much it's horrible to see.
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    Noticed that alright. Doesn't take much to get hyped to bits these days.
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    Burnley are just waiting for idiots to bid £20 million+ for him so they can replace him with another championship CB who will do the same job.
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    Martial ripped him off, at that moment i scrapped him from my list of exciting young players to watch.
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    sincher "I will cry if Rooney leaves"

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    Chambers is one I never saw great promise in. There is no part of the game he is particularly good at. He should go back to right back, and find his level at a lower premiership club.
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    I never knew he was rated. I've seen him playing for Arsenal and generally left wondering why Wenger signs some of these defenders.
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    sincher "I will cry if Rooney leaves"

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    He would do fine at the likes of Leicester, Stoke or Watford.
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    I think there is a quality defender hiding in there somewhere personally.
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    Mee is the best defender they have IMO. Tarkowski has made mistakes when I've watched Burnley, but Mee frequently bails him out.
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    Hide and seek champion of the century.
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    Yeah but Tarkowski is flavour of the month with the media at the minute so jump aboard the hype train.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Hiding about a yard or two behind the offside trap, based on last night's performance.
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    sincher "I will cry if Rooney leaves"

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    Chambers is just Carl Jenkinson in a Chambers suit. Ever seen them together? Exactly.
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    I think the effect of not playing regular first team football is underrated in terms of detriment to players.
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    To be fair, I thought that Morata did excellent yesterday - apart from his finishing. So it may have been just a bad day in the office.
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    Kind of the important part. Welbeck used to do good things too....
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    True, but my point was that the positional play and speed of Morata (and the very good passes he received) made things difficult for Chambers, and obviously playing as a defender for a Wenger team in a basically newly formed defence is already difficult. (I did not want to distract from Morata's poor finishing.)
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    I doubt a good player could pretend be so bad even if he was trying to do it.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Yeah, defense shouldn't be ignored. 2 CBs who aren't first choice and a kid playing as LWB. So that's 3 out of 5 defenders missing the game.