Carlos Soler is the midfielder we are scouting most now.

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  1. Nov 18, 2017

    Ishdalar Full Member

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    Not an avid Valencia watcher, but so far all I've seen from him doesn't strike me as special or Manchester United level.

    He'll be 21 in January, and I think he lacks in first touch (to Spanish standards I mean, he doesn't hold a candle to guys like Mata or Silva that I've seen brought up here) and if being 21 he's still green at first touch coming from the Spanish youth system, he probably won't improve much.

    He also seems to let the ball run a little further than optimal in conduction, it would be fine if he was quicker or stronger, but that means the moment you put some weight from muscle on him he becomes a clunkier player and probably loses some of that "shining" he does have in his game. I don't want to sound harsh but with his level at his age I don't think he'll break into the European elite /top 8 UCL teams, and that's what United should be striving for.

    At his age, you could see some quirks and polished traits in all the other typical Spanish midfielder maestros like Xavi, Iniesta, Silva, Thiago, Mata or even Fabregas and Arteta. He feels halfway there compared to those guys at similar age, kind of a Andre Gomes situation (well, probably not that bad). If United really desire one of Valencia's best pieces this season, Guedes seems a way better player and has that special aura while being only two months older.
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    prtk0811 Banned

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    Isnt he on loan from PSG.
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    Yagami Full Member

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    I'm not a big fan of his. He reminds me of Suso but not as good. Very direct players who don't just cut inside - they can beat a man down the flanks and put in a good cross. Suso's just more consistent (to be fair, he is a bit older) and further along in his development. I'd prefer him for our right side.
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    He is compared to David Silva. His strengths are:- Dribbling, Holding onto the ball, Quick thinking, Through ball, and a free kick specialist.

    My mate says that In Spain they rate him very highly and think he is a future star in the making.
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    FCBarca Mes que un Rag City Lover

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    A player to definitely keep an eye on, not jump the gun for and derail his development
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    Kostov Full Member

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    I watched the game last night and I didn't notice him playing until he came off. Guedes on the other hand was running the show, fast and aggressive on the ball.
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    I think he should be our new right winger
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    Ali Dia Full Member

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    He's on loan there from psg...
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    Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally)

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    Looked class last night. Definately gonna keep an eye on him from now on
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    Soler ...
    State of the club these days. Makes me sad.
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    Let's face it... he's not going to be first choice at PSG. He would do much better playing here and playing under fellow Portuguese. He would light up the RW which Mata and Lingard have simply failed to do.
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    Nick7 Full Member

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    What?
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    Ban Full Member

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    His name is not flashy enough, it's not the united way.
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    I've watched Valencia a few times this season and he's just... there, doing his job to a decent standard. I don't see much to suggest we should be breaking the bank to sign him, Saul is the Spanish midfielder you want to be spending big on.
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    Varun Moderator Staff

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    Doesn't get brighter than solar!
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    Yagami Full Member

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    I don't see him as a D.Silva type. For one, he's not good at holding onto the ball when pressed as he's never in full control of the ball. He's like Rashford or Mkhi in that the ball isn't glued to his feet - it's always a bit away so it's easy to dispossess him. I also think he's a lot more direct than Silva.

    I don't see him as anything special really.
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    Macern SeARcHeS iMagEs oF fO0tbAlLeRs bAllSaCkS

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    :lol: Exactly
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    Ban Full Member

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    Maybe Solarinho?
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    prath92 Full Member

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    That’s only little solar so not as bright
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    Maradona10 Duncan Castles

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    Independent reckon he is on the wanted list for mourinho but will wait till summer as funds will be limited in winter and we will want fullbacks first. Nonetheless more and more reports of him being wanted by us.
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    If there's any player that I would like us to get from the current Valencia team, it would be Guedes. PS: I know he's on loan from PSG. We don't need Soler, we need Goretzka and Savic. Savic a more than enough back up for Matic and Goretzka could play in 3 man midfield without the need for a No. 10.

    ------- Pogba -------------- Goretzka --------
    ------------------ Savic/ Matic -----------------
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    ovoxo Full Member

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    Isn't Savic more of a CAM/CM style player? I didn’t think he was much of a defensive midfielder.
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    Yeah I agree but I see Savic progressing like Matic.... and being a faster and robust version of Matic.
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    DannyCAFC Full Member

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    Correct.
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    Certainly need someone brought in as without Pogba we would find it hard to get into top 4. IMO.
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    Recall Pereira and sign Soler? - For a January transfer window I think that would be amazing business.