Champagne on ice lads

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    B Cantona Desperate

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    Cracking game tonight. Bad news for Arsenal. Them and Chelsea six behind, we have a strong goal difference, and lets tell it like it is, we'll batter Blackpool who are doomed on final day

    We'd have to drop points in three of the next four games to chuck this away

    Not for me...
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    cold-zebra Clare Baldings Daughter

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    Not necessarily. Lose two and either of them could catch us on goal difference.
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    pauldyson1uk Full Member

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    I agree , Spuds have done is a massive favor tonight , makes last nigh's result seem not that bad.
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    712 Formerly '711' but that was a ridiculous username!

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    We haven't got a strong goal difference at all.

    Chelsea's is 4 worse than us and Arsenal 6, so we lose 2 games 0-1 that's a change of 2, they win by 1-0 that's another 2. Except it's not likely 4 games will be won by only 1 goal.

    If Chelsea caught us on points they would almost certainly have a better goal difference, and my money would be on Arsenal to have too.

    Let's beat Chelsea and finish it.
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    Allforone Full Member

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    We should be all but there, the position now means even if we lost to both Arsenal and Chelsea theyd still need us to drop another game somewhere else AND go perfect right till the end themselves.

    We surely cant feck this up, although last nights game has me a tad worried.
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    beardsleybob Full Member

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    Bit premature wouldn't ya say. 5 games left, playing our two title rivals and you want to celebrate? Personally I won't be supremely confident unless we win our next 2 games. Then I'll consider us to have one hand on the trophy.
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    B Cantona Desperate

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    Last nights result wasn't that bad anyway, Newcastle gave us a bloody good game and were deserving of a point. I think some have unrealistic expectations at times

    Still, no doubt Spurs have given us a little more breathing space. We'd have to go completely off the boil to even give our rivals a hope, and that's if they win all their games
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    You gotta be joking, let's play Everton first eh? I thought people would learn that United never do things the easy way, this is not even close yet. Come back with 3 games to go and see.
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    cj_sparky Full Member

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    Win our home games, don't lose to Arsenal....Job done.
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    Just to add if it does go down to GD Chelsea go away to Everton in the final day, Arsenal go to Fulham and we host Blackpool, youd like to think wed be able to win by a bigger margin than the others if need be.

    Truth be told we shouldnt be dropping 6 points.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's

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    If you don't win on Saturday i'll start to hope. Beat Everton though and it's all over for me.
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    Yeah exactly. Let's say we lose away to Arsenal which is by no mean unlikely, they are a good side and can beat us.
    Then Chelsea has two home games before us, so it would be down to 3 points and Chelsea having a goal difference on their side as we lose and they win = goal difference switch, shock....

    The game at Old Trafford against Chelsea is the massive one now.
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    Allforone Full Member

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    Or even a bad case scenario of losing to Arse and only drawing at home to chavs would still be enough as long as we won the other 3.
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    Hitchcocker Full Member

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    For me, it's still the Arsenal game. Fail to beat them, you have a chance.
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    Brophs The one and only

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    You'd expect us to win on Saturday. Arenal away will be tough after playing midweek and then we'll have to play Schalke and then Chelsea in quick succession. It could easily happen that we don't get a point out of either game which might bring our goal difference to equal or worse. If that happens we might have to a Blackburn who are fighting against relegation. And then there's the Blackpool game which shouldn't be a problem.

    It's far from over. Playing our two main rivals one after another means that it we don't lose either we should be fine but neither will be an easy game when you take into account our away form and the fact Chelsea have realised that Drogba's their best bet.
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    Galactic Incorrigible pest

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    Good. Not strong. But yea, we are in a good position. We just have to draw one fo the matches against Chelsea or Arsenal at the least. But anything can happen in football :nervous:
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    kietotheworld Banned

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    I don't understand this, if we beat Everton and you and/or Arsenal win your games, you're still 6 points behind us, and we still have 2 of our toughest games of the season to come. Not only that, we have another away game at Blackburn after Arsenal (we've won less than 30% of our away games this season). Blackburn is a game I see us as more likely to drop points in than Everton at home.
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    B Cantona Desperate

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    It warms me that there are so many pessimists who follow us. I admire that!

    But look at it objectively. We're odds on, even assuming our rivals win all their games, we'd have to lose at least two games of our final five - where we have three games at home which has been a fortress, and play the team most out of form in the league this calender year on the last day. And beyond that, we've just beaten Chelsea home and away in the Champions League, and were very unlucky to lose at their gaff earlier in the season... Arsenal can't score for toffee at home... we'd have to be well off our game to lose both of those

    I'm confident. Not counting my chickens, but super confident. If you can't win it from this position you don't deserve to be champions
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    We can lose the match against Arsenal and still win the title. Actually we can lose against Both Chelsea and Arsenal and still win it.
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    There's always twists at the end of the season. I'm not counting my chickens.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's

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    You can lose all your games and still win it.
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    Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009

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    I have full confidence in our ability to not lose to both Chelsea and Arsenal, but one step at a time. Everton are next and they won't be a push over.
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    SATA Full Member

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    Don't Chelsea have Spurs at home after the West Ham one? That's a potential banana skin for them with Spurs still chasing for fourth
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    we need 9 points. thats it.
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    I am not counting my chickens, but I'm glad that Chelski didn't go on this run three games earlier.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    I fecking hate threads like this. Someone says don't tempt fate, someone else says the Internet can't influence football matches and round and round it goes.

    Obviously, this is just a thread on the internet, but is it really all that flaky to feel uneasy reading it?
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    kietotheworld Banned

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    Objectively, we're massive favourites, and I'm confident we'll win it, but I'm not buying any champagne just yet.
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    Hitchcocker Full Member

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    You say that with ease but we lost to both Liverpool and Chelsea in a short space of time.
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    I knew someone was going to post this
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    Looking at the fixtures, beating Everton is essential. After that game we have Schalke twice, Arsenal and Chelsea in the following 4 games. Should we win that game it'll give us the chance to reassess our position and proceed from there. Will SAF go all out in the Schalke first leg or will he play conservatively whilst looking ahead to the Arsenal game? I'm thinking the PL games will get priority until the CL final (fingers crossed we get through). As I've said already I feel two consecutive wins in the league and we have it tentatively sealed.
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    Raven Blade Dull

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    We've relied so much on our good home form, but what if that goes off the boil? If we manage to deal with Everton, then Arsenal at the Emirates, then I will be a lot more confident.

    For now i'm not even thinking of champagne. This season has been far too unpredictable.
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    Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009

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    Aye but that was Liverpool (game raising bastards) and Chelsea away, not Arsenal who's home form is dodgy and Chelsea at home.
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    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    Awesome, win all our home games and we are champions. Good thng considering we probably won't win either of our aways, but that doesn't matter.
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    friendlytramp More full of crap than a curry house toilet

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    We will drop points again on Saturday I reckon that will blow it wide open again
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    B Cantona Desperate

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    This isn't an Allardyce Blackburn anymore remember, this is a Steve Kean Blackburn, and under him they've falled right into the shit, and might be going down yet... I fancy us to take all three in that game myself. I think we'll beat Chelsea, draw against Arsenal (though a loss wouldn't surprise me), beat Everton and have a celebration thumping Blackpool on last day
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    rednev God Save My Gracious Queen

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    Done and dusted. Game, set and match. It's in the bag. Etc.
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    Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009

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    I hope that Blackpool don't go down because of it though.

    No it's not.
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    Let's not assume an easy game against Everton. They're more than capable of winning at Old Trafford...especially as we don't know what team Fergie will put out with Shalke 3 days later
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    Arsenal at home, in spite of their form, will very much be up for it against us, the same way you'd say about Liverpool and Chelsea still worries me. It is great that we're effectively playing both games as if we are 1-0 up but I wouldn't say with absolute confidence that we wouldn't lose both games.
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    i have a feeling we might drop points on saturday - its almost in our nature to make things hard for ourselves

    i think chelsea are the main threat - arsenal will drop more points

    i think the games away to arsenal and at home to chelsea are the games where we will win the league

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