Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by KM, Feb 27, 2018.
No more qualifying and a winterbreak. More rest for the players but less football for us. I like it though.
I kind of both like and don't like the staggered kick offs idea. Games finishing at 11pm on a weeknight is going to be a massive pain in the arse in terms of getting back after.
Also seems to be screwing over the little guys by removing the need for the top ranking association's teams to qualify...although it's not very often if ever that they fail to anyway, I guess.
Heard on the football Daily podcast today that if a team wins the CL and finishes outside the top 4 of their league, they push the team who finish 4th into the Europa. Given the amount of EPL teams still in the comp, and the number competing for top 4, you'd really want to avoid finishing 4th if possible.
Love the staggered kickoffs. Tough to not see spoilers from one game when you're watching another in the CL knockouts and sometimes the 2nd game is still worth watching.
So the team that finishes in 4th this year doesn't have to worry about qualifying? They go straight into CL group stages?
No it states you can have maximum of 5 teams in the group stage...so 4th place woould only get pushed out if both the Europa and CL were won by teams from outside of the top 4.
I might just be being thick but why would games finish at 11pm? The new KO times will be 17:55 and 20:00?
You jest. Look forward to our team & others flying halfway around the world to play lucrative friendlies, then Klopp/Guardiola etc whining they are too tired.
Because I didn't bother reading the bit about it being central European time.
THough I don't like games kicking off at 17.55 either...too early. Too much faffing around just to get everything on tv.
Which is how it currently is I think?
Vomit. Basically just a closed shop for the big four leagues now.
Pity. I was looking forward to Rangers, Celtic and Aberdeen smashing the shit out of Barca and PSG losing all the time.
So 4th placed team automatically goes to CL without qualifying stage?
Horrible decision to have every team eliminated from cl groups play in EL
Where does it say that?
Saturday 1 June: Final – Estadio Metropolitano, Madrid
Is this Atletico Madrid's new stadium?
Got to feel sorry for the smaller leagues around Europe including the Dutch, Russian and Portguese.
I’m getting a bit tired of seeing the same teams over and over again in the knock out stages. They need to scrap the rule at the Ro16 of avoiding teams from the same country. Or better still no seeding whatsoever in the group.
Oh I read the second line wrong
Go back to the old European Cup format. No seeding and teams drawn from the hat like the FA Cup. Highlights on at 10.30 pm after the news.
It has been for awhile hasn’t it? Platini who tried to open up the CL for lesser teams didn’t really get it right either.
Mostly tinkering around the edges, but with guaranteed 4-club-from-a-big-league entry and 1 less spot for the champions of leagues ranked 11th to 55th, it's the usual pish of marginalising the smaller leagues.
Yeah, in a sense. I definitely feel that it's getting worse though. Across Europe we have several big clubs, ex European champions in some case with many trophies, across bigger and bigger leagues basically reduced to feeder clubs. The amount of heavy thrashings dished out in European competition this season by the top clubs to the rest can't be a healthy sign for anyone.
I dislike the rule about top four from big 4 leagues get auto into group stage.
Always think more Champions is better, I understand why the big boys lobbied for it still dislike it.
I still think it should be top 2 then maybe 3rd place in top 4 get a playoff.
Having to play 4 qualifiers when we're champions of our country just isn't right.
Finally some sense from Uefa, introduction of the triple away goal rule in knockouts was way overdue, counting one as double wasn't nearly enough.
Sorry, but when smaller sides, though bigger than you, like Besiktas, Porto, & Basel get through the group stages, they are thrashed. What I don't find right is when a side gets beaten five times in the group stages with a -13 goal difference, then is rewarded by being given a place in the Europa League.
Firstly, your troll game is so weak.
Secondly, they only get thrashed because the financial disparity between the elite and the rest is so disgustingly large and so making tournaments like the CL a closed shop only increases the gap so your point is counterproductive.
Thirdly, Basel beat Man Utd this season
Good. The ship has sailed for underdogs or lesser known teams to win this competition. It's all about the big teams now. There's now way Basel is going to fluke to the final and beat Madrid/Barca/Juventus etc
UEFA should make things interesting and get rid of the groups too. Make it a straight knock out to the final
Do you guys think you'll live to see a Champions League winner from outside of the top 5 leagues ever again?
Sooner or later something will have to be done but most of the damage has been done already.
Hahaha I love the third point, even though it was a sad moment... and I agree, it's sad for Celtics to be winning their league but go through a ton of qualifications tours. However, it's better for the EPL in general so...
Surely more than ever the name needs changed. Uefa have already ruined a once great trophy and this just makes it worse. The rich get richer and the rest can ram it. Poor stuff.
You can have a maximum of 5 teams from a league. So if Chelsea say were to win it and finish 5th the top 4 would still all qualify. If that happened and Arsenal won the Europa then the 4th place team would lose out as we could only have 5 teams.
this. it's disgusting. I don't understand how anyone thinks it's a good idea.
Leicester story makes me think anything is possible, same goes for Greece in 04. However I am inclined to agree that we won't see it.
Agreed. That's the positive I'm taking away too. One game for dinner and one afterwards, what's not to like.
I know that a lot of people drooling about CL but i wonder, whats the reason why they find CL as something as a must, or even winning it. Is it money? Prestige? Big games playing vs the best teams in Europe? I am asking because, would views of people or clubs change towards CL if UEFA decides to reverse the money reward, going total opposite.
Still has the same issues as before and probably always will now. Mediocrity is rewarded too much in order to keep the big names in the tournaments.
It's obvious we're not going to get less teams in these any more, but I at least think if they want the Europa League to be bigger/better, it should be the teams who lose in the last 16 of the Champion's League that drop into the Europa League, rather than the third placed teams from the Group Stage. Couldn't quite make out if this still happens with the new changes...
The SPL is a pub league, don't feel sorry for Celtic.
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