Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by duffer, Jun 11, 2018.
Jorginho got roasted for the third goal. Still a very good player though.
We need to look up. Haven't seen the game. We've suffered some defeats in last few seasons but still finished the seasons with Silverware.
Top 4 / cl and a trophy are the goals and we need to stay focused on them. This result is done and we focus on the next game.
I’ve seen him caught out a few times off the ball this season. Class act in possession but very questionable off the ball IMO, slow and doesn’t tackle
Good grief, Planet Football is a terrible site.
How Morata starts over Giroud I’ll never know, he is wank.
Sure he got beaten there, but David Luiz shouldn't go in like that. He gave him the best possible chance of scoring. Let him go to his right and don't go in.
Spurs (and by extension Poch) have a knack for decoding and breaking top teams in the league. Once again they decoded Sarri's chelsea as they did Pep's first team in the epl (by outmuscling them physically and being tight on them) and Conte's Chelsea (by exploiting space behind their wingbacks and their aerial weakness).
On saturday Poch showed again why he is highly regarded by many. He recognized that stopping Jorghino would effectively disrupt Chelsea's rhythm and that worked to a tee. Chelsea was totally destroyed by Spurs.
I expect to see other clubs copy this model going forward.
Wow, so the 3rd sport will be for the Spurs, then?
Sarri out next May.
We have to get a striker in January. Trying to win games without a striker takes an extra toll on your players mentally and physically. If anyone half decent is available in January I hope we go for it.
Why would Ake want to return to Chelsea ?
Chelsea give up on players and then think they would be ecstatic to return.
So you guys wanted Lukaku right?
Ah, Morata's lost brother! I wanted him to stay back then because he seduced me saying all the right things; even had a video of him visiting Stamford Bridge on a school trip (I think) saying one day he's gonna make it here! I now see him saying all the right things for United fans!
Yup, they have a good young player in Christiensen but they play this clown, David Luiz.
Oh you know we pay him to say such things. His heart lies with Chelsea .
I suggest Chelsea move heaven and earth to sign him in January.
Why would Chelsea want Ake back? What has he done to suggest he can be upgrade on what they've got?
Would you take Callum Wilson?
Might be worth Sarri trying 4-2-3-1, it’s the only way I can see Jorginho & Kante most effectively, takes some of the pressure of Jorginho having Kante next to him doing his running. Also means that Kante doesn’t need to be in the opposition final 3rd which isn’t a strength of his. If he wants to keep 4-3-3 might be worth playing RLC over Kante
Good. Let's hope that he starts every game then.
Many pundits kept talking about how Kante should play where Jorginho does, and that his current position makes him a worse player. For me, when Kante was at his best he played in counterattacking systems, this was definitely true with Leicester, and Conte's Chelsea and even France. Now he plays in a team that wants to keep possession play intricate football and imo that is the issue.
Is he just world class for counter attacking sides, but not in sides that aim to keep possession and play intricate football like Sarri, and will he continue to be 'average' regardless of where he plays?
What about Abraham? Will he make it for you guys ?
If Hazard does not sign a new contact and they are forced to sell him they might already have their replacement in Hudson-Odoi
The way Chelsea is currently setup, with Jorginho as a DLP and pushing Kante upfield and to the side, basically makes it easier for teams to bypass kante and reduces his effectiveness in ball winning.
To get the best out of Kante imo, he should be the lone DM or in a pair, but in either case, sitting in front of the defence. He is not as capable going forward and thus pushing him upfield is shooting yourself in the foot.
Sarri should expect more teams to deny/pres to sure Jorginho and would be interesting to see how he responds. Against Spurs, I felt he should have swapped Jorginho and Kante or brought on Cesc for Kante.
Do people want to see Kante finish with 150+ touches a match? Because that what he would need to do playing in Jorginho's role. Jorginho leads the PL in passes completed and he lead the Serie A several years in the same category. All the attacks start with him. Their build up be a lot worse if Kante was there. If anything Kante is the one that needs to adjust not Jorginho or Sarri. There is no reason why he could not play the same role Allan played for Napoli under Sarri.
From what I've seen he's better with the ball than Kante? Anyone care to wage in?
Without a doubt, there is a big gulf between the two
No one says he should play the Jorginho role of course but he could play closer to him, with him impetus on him carrying the ball forward and being threatening offensively where he's obviously at his weakest. It would mean changing too much of Chelsea's general structure which is understandable if Sarri doesn't go down that road.
Long term Kante will either turn in a very good ball carrying midfielder (which I doubt he ever will) or he could find himself on the bench
Moving Kante to Jorginho's position will severely reduce the effectiveness of this Chelsea team in possession, depriving it of it's greatest strength. Kante can't do a third of what Jorginho can do in possession. If Kante is the master at tackling and intercepting, then Jorginho is the master at passing and Sarri/this chelsea team value possession and relies heavily on it over the dirty side of things. Jorginho is vital to Sarri's philosophy and if this conundrum leads to dropping of one of the midfielders, it will obviously be Kante as Jorginho is too valuable to the philosophy - Jorginho can't play in a two and I would say it matters little how good Kante is.
Kovacic doesn't seem to fit very well in the advanced role as he seems a bit reluctant to get involved in attacking moves. I could imagine him doing a better job than Kante in the Allan role. He is good enough for the defensive side of things since Chelsea have most of the possession anyway and he is much better than Kante in possession.
Sarri ball is less than 6 months old at Chelsea. Even seasoned players like a
Kante are learning new roles. Give it time. The few games in which the likes of Kante and Kovavcic have played their roles to perfection the chelsea midfield has looked nigh unplayable.
I'll just leave this here...
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How many players did Real "give up on" that went crawling back? Most players aren't as petty as the average fan, that and the fact we have a different manager to the one that deemed him surplus means there's every chance Ake would return if we made a serious attempt to get him back.
Amazing level of conditioning on Giroud, would love to know what cycle he is on. I think there's got to be some Clenbuterol working there, I doubt he's using t3 since his hairline is impeccable.
Dont let Lukaku look at those pics.
Chelsea 2018/19 - You can bank on Barkley
I just got that.
You appear to know a lot about this.
You are Kolo Toure and I claim my £5
Bet Fabregas leaves the gym sideways.
I'm just admiring a well crafted physique
His diet has got to be impeccable, I wouldn't be surprised if he's on low doses of TrenAce (Trenbolone Acetate) because the vascularity and fullness across his upper chest and shoulders is a sight to behold. Fabregas looks like a skinny drug addict while Giroud looks like a sculpted god, his skin is so thin and smooth it almost looks fake. He emasculates him.
But look again and you'll notice a fullness inconsistency between shoulder traps. He's also lacking cleat acuity in the lateral sandtraps of both upper abs. And the less said about the christ rampacity of his pectoral shats the better. Needs to drink more milk.
As someone who is well versed in nutritional science I find this hilarious and appreciate the effort
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