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Copa Sudamericana 2018 | Second Stage draw is out

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  1. Feb 15, 2018
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    The 2018 Copa CONMEBOL Sudamericana is the 17th edition of the CONMEBOL Sudamericana (also referred to as the Copa Sudamericana, or Portuguese: Copa Sul-Americana), South America's secondary club football tournament organized by CONMEBOL.

    The winners of the 2018 Copa Sudamericana will qualify for the 2019 Copa Libertadores, and also earn the right to play against the winners of the 2018 Copa Libertadores in the 2019 Recopa Sudamericana, and the winners of the 2018 J.League Cup in the 2019 Suruga Bank Championship.

    Teams
    The following 44 teams from the 10 CONMEBOL associations qualified for the tournament, entering the first stage:

    • Argentina and Brazil: 6 berths each
    • All other associations: 4 berths each

    A further 10 teams eliminated from the 2018 Copa Libertadores will be transferred to the Copa Sudamericana, entering the second stage.

    First stage (ongoing)

    In the first stage, each tie is played on a home-and-away two-legged basis. If tied on aggregate, the away goals rule is used. If still tied, extra time is not played, and the penalty shoot-out is used to determine the winner (Regulations Article 27).

    The 22 winners of the first stage advance to the second stage to join the 10 teams transferred from the Copa Libertadores (two best teams eliminated in the third stage of qualifying and eight third-placed teams in the group stage).

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    Second stage

    In the second stage, each tie is played on a home-and-away two-legged basis. If tied on aggregate, the away goals rule is used. If still tied, extra time is not played, and the penalty shoot-out is used to determine the winner (Regulations Article 27).

    The 16 winners of the second stage advance to the round of 16 of the knockout stages.


    Final stages

    Starting from the round of 16, the teams play a single-elimination tournament with the following rules:

    • Each tie is played on a home-and-away two-legged basis, with the higher-seeded team hosting the second leg (Regulations Article 22.d).
    • In the round of 16, quarterfinals, and semifinals, if tied on aggregate, the away goals rule is used. If still tied, extra time is not played, and the penalty shoot-out is used to determine the winner (Regulations Article 27).
    • In the finals, if tied on aggregate, the away goals rule is not used, and 30 minutes of extra time is played. If still tied after extra time, the penalty shoot-out is used to determine the winner (Regulations Article 28).
    Seeding
    Starting from the round of 16, the teams are seeded according to the second stage draw, with each team assigned a "seed" 1–16 corresponding to the tie they win (O1–O16) (Regulations Article 22.c).
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    First Stage - Home Leg (February 13)

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    Recopa Sudamericana 2018 - Home Leg (February 14)

    The 2018 CONMEBOL Recopa is the 26th edition of the CONMEBOL Recopa (also referred to as the Recopa Sudamericana, or Portuguese: Recopa Sul-Americana), the football competition organized by CONMEBOL between the winners of the previous season's two major South American club tournaments, the Copa Libertadores and the Copa Sudamericana.

    The competition is contested in two-legged home-and-away format between Brazilian team Grêmio, the 2017 Copa Libertadores champions, and Argentinian team Independiente, the 2017 Copa Sudamericana champions. The first leg was hosted by Independiente at Estadio Libertadores de América in Avellaneda on 14 February 2018, while the second leg will be hosted by Grêmio at Arena do Grêmio in Porto Alegre on 21 February 2018.

    Teams

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    Venues

    Estadio Libertadores de América, Avellaneda (ARG)

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    Arena do Gremio, Porto Alegre (BRA)

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    Format

    The Recopa Sudamericana is played on a home-and-away two-legged basis, with the Copa Libertadores champions hosting the second leg. If tied on aggregate, the away goals rule is not used, and 30 minutes of extra time is played. If still tied after extra time, the penalty shoot-out is used to determine the winner.


    Independiente (ARG) 1
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    I will keep both this thread and the Copa Libertadores one up to date every week. Cheers!
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    So, it's the equivalent of the Europa League?
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    Supposedly, although there are no group stages. Just home-away legs all the way.
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    The last Southamerican (sudamericana) was the best one of all times, because they added teams who finished 3rd from the Libertadores's group stages.


    I think the last Sudamericana final was better than the Libertadores one.


    AND OF COURSE MY TEAM WON.

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    Independiente has 7 Libertadores Cup (record) and 2 Sudamericanas (shared record). And to get these cups, we played 9 finals in total. We've never lost a Cup final yet.



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    I agree with you, it was by far the best version of the Sudamericana because of the Libertadores teams that got there. Anyways, I think it would be great if groups were set up and there was some kind of cup between the Europa League and Sudamericana winners.
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    It actually exists but it's not official

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercopa_Euroamericana
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    It's still far behind the Libertadores. Flamengo didn't make the last 16 and still made it to the finals, playing against juggernauts like Palestino and Chapecoense.
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    Some big names coming up in my mind: Racing, Fluminense, Libertad, Junior, Nacional, Flamengo, Independiente, Estudiantes, Corinthians, Atletico Tucuman

    all those are good teams. If you compare it to the previous editions, it's a lot better. I don't think it's that far behind. The final for example, was far better than the Libertadores one, and I think Independiente could've won that Libertadores aswell, since it's the best team in Argentina at the moment.


    Don't really know, I hope we both can play, it would be a dream: Los diablos rojos vs the red devils :drool:
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    :lol:
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    Fantastic thread. Thanks for creating it. I saw a few matches of Atletico Nacional last year, including the historic one vs. Chapecoense.

    Also, I like how there's a Chilean team called Everton :lol:
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    You've got a team called Liverpool from Uruguay aswell. And Ecuador has a Barcelona lol.
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    Would have been interesting but i imagine it's not happening now. Both the last ones happened pre-season, by next summer there will ne new EL holders.
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    That's right! Founded by Everton fans in the early-XIX century in my hometown (Everton de Viña del Mar happens to be the team I support :D)

    Fun fact: Everton PL sends some messages to Everton CL whenever they play important games. This is the last one from 2016 when Everton was facing Colo Colo in the Copa Chile final:



    Fun fact 2: In 2010, Everton from England played a friendly against Everton from Chile at Goodison Park :lol:

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    First Stage - Home Leg (February 15)

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    Great to see our friends America de Cali playing international cups after all these awful years

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    Today, 00:45 London time.


    At the Arena do Gremio Stadium, Porto Alegre, Brazil.


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    Tonigh the Recopa champion will be decided.

    The first leg ended up 1-1 at the Libertadores de America stadium, in Avellaneda, Buenos Aires.


    There's no goal away advantage. If the tie persists, 30 extra minutes. Then penalties.
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    I can't freaking wait!! My cousin is in there,,,that fecker always has no money but he goes everywhere.
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    El Rey de Robos to win with a shady penalty..
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    I hope Gremio doesn't beat us that way
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    Hope there's a penalty shootout :D
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    we've been robbed once again.

    Congratulations Gremio
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    They use VAR to sent Amorebieta out but there was an off side as clear as day before that play came
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    Why? Seemed like a clear red.

    The offside does not eliminate the aggressive action.
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    So? It was an off side. They must call it I gues...

    then it's not a clear red at all in my eyes.
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    First Stage - Home Leg (February 20)

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    Barcelona (ECU) 0
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    First Stage - Home Leg (February 21)

    Lanús (ARG) 4
    Sporting Cristal (PER) 2
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    Recopa Sudamericana 2018 - Away Leg (February 21)

    Gremio (BRA) 0
    Independiente (ARG) 0

    Highlights



    Penalties



    Gremio wins 5-4 on penalties and is the Recopa Sudamericana 2018 Champion.
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    Holy shit Vasco :lol:

    Gremio won on penalties, but how terrible were they with 1 man in excess.
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    Thanks for creating this thread and all the pics / clips lads !
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    Today games:

    El Nacional (ECU) v. San José (BOL)
    Everton (CHI) v. Caracas (VEN)
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    First Stage - Home Leg (February 22)

    El Nacional (ECU) 3
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    Everton (CHI) 1
    Caracas (VEN) 2
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    Are you gona use this thread only for the Sudamericana, or the Libertadores too?

    There's been an important change on this cup.
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    There are two different threads: this one about the Sudamericana and this one about the Libertadores.

    What would the change be?
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    Did you have a heart attack during the penalties and recovered just now?
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    At all, I was so happy because of the effort the players put into the field with one less man. You can either win or loose on penalties, but that atitude and intensity will get us far in the Cup.


    Well, the final will be decided in just one match, on a saturday, in a neutral stadium.