Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by NinjaZombie, Jan 20, 2019.
what does this even mean?
Was just reading through some of the comments on here. People saying he is better than Rooney, comparable to Ronaldo. Just wow. Nowhere near the level that those two guys were at that age, nor do I think he will hit the heights of those two. That being said he is young and still developing, and excited to have him around.
he's a great talent but he's not a Rooney level talent. Rooney scored 17 goals in his first season with us at the age of 19. Can't see it happening.
Apparently being overplayed wasn't Michael Owen's real problem. His dad and brothers had the similar problems so it ran in the family.
Yes he can. Provided he scores consistently and remains the club's first choice for years, I can see him breaking the record. 20 goals in all competitions per season is not that tough for a top team's first choice striker. He will need luck and consistency.
150 games but alot as substitute
Baby steps at a time though. Can he become our highest scorer this season ? The likes of Ole and almost all players take this one game at a time but we want to look 10 years into the future. A bad injury could just as well derail this (Im hoping it doesnt and he remains a healthy athlete for the next 10 years)
Comparing their career trajectories really does not do these players justice, given that Rashford would have probably just be on his way to a big league had he been born in Uruguay/Poland/Egypt/whatever.
I watched a lot of Bale/Griezmann/Salah at that age, you could see, for each and every one of them that there was something special that is yet to really come out. As I said, I do expect Rashford to become a very very good player, just not exactly the same class as the ones you mentioned. Let's hope I am wrong.
It's just near impossible to judge how the players careers go. Like I said and gave so many examples to show that. Rashford has shown lot of promise to believe he will be a top player.
Seriously if this is the case, then we'll rule the premierleague for another 10 years or so...
Way too early for that kind of talk. Rashford is in great form, but lets see if he can score 20 goals in consecutive seasons first. He's not on Rooney's level as a talent, which is no insult to Rashford, but Rooney is probably the most naturally talented English player since Gazza. I think it's a long shot to say he'll surpass the record, given that the previous one stood for about 40 years.
yes he could but no he won't
Rashers scoring rate is around the same levels as Rooney after 150 games.
Plus Rooney played in a much more attacking team.
21 goals total isn't tooooo much for a good striker. Kane scored 41 last season, Lukaku 27, Sterling 23, Vardy 23
The man gets it done against big teams, we all know that. What we needed from him is consistency and that's what he's giving us atm. What's up with people acting like you play big teams every weekend, you don't.
Those players are impossible to obtain, and no player that looks like reaching those levels is available either. In fact, no player looks more likely to reach that level than Rashford. As I said, you can name a more in form striker in the league and that's saying alot.
Especially in this era of attack attack attack. Mind you, Rooney didn't play as a 9 most of his career. People also forget that he wasn't our main scorer most of his time here which Rashford could prove to be.
He might. He might not. It's the nature of the future. Probabilistically speaking, there is around a 2.6% chance (I made that up).
Anything is possible now.
If Rashford kick on and becomes an unstoppable goal machine, he will score 30-40 goals a season and he will eventually come close to that record.
35 goals x 9 season = 315 goals.
I believe in him.
+1 - I think it's 3.7% though, I think. Shall we bump this thread in 7 years?
But this is hard to predict, if United were to build an attack on one 35 goal striker, who would you rather choose?
Rashford or Martial?
Because over the years we saw great successful teams with one 40+ goals forward: Messi, Ronaldo, Kane, Suarez, Lewandowski, Ibra, Cavani, list goes on.
This would make me so happy
Good post mate. Full of positivity and I especially like the maths
Well to do that he would have to do something that is extremely uncommon in todays football. Stay with the club for most of his career. It does happen, but we also know that Real Madrid like to buy anyone that scores goals.
Personally I don't see Rashford as a type of forward that will generate a huge amount of goals night in and night out. To me he'll be a steady workhorse that can score 20'ish a season, but other than that he'll be an absolute best that makes the other forwards around him better, and increase their production as well.
Alladyce reckons his body will give up by time he's 30:
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Interesting. However, it’s more of a generalised view that young players will play lots of games and not get much time off. Nothing to do with Rashford specifically.
A lot of players who get their start early do run out of steam earlier than normal but not always. For every Rooney or Owen, there is a Ronaldo or Milner at the other end of the spectrum.
I think the biggest factor is genetics. We won't know until the time comes if his body will hold up past 30.
What in the holy feck is he banging on about? Won't make it to 30 even if he doesn't get a major injury? Ronaldo? Messi? Zlatan? Christ wept.
Lets wait for him to have a few high scoring seasons, like Kane. So 20+ goals then we can talk about him being our record goal scorer.
By the time of the end of the season Ronaldo was 21 he had made 170 professional appearances. (Of which 137 were for United). I know that Ronaldo is a superb athlete but if Rashford stays relatively injury free and looks after himself maybe he could he could going playing for quite a bit longer than Allardyce thinks.
Also Ryan Giggs made at least 157 appearences for United before his 21st birthday. Although I am well aware that was a different era.
Yes, advances in sports science were no where near the level they are now. Giggs also looked after himself impeccably as he got older (and was getting a a regular shag, to boot).
I've set a reminder, see you then.
This one's interesting. He's on course to get there, but I've seen a lot of Spurs fans talking about his injuries - apparently he keeps getting ankle injuries, and they're seriously worried he's being overplayed
I read somewhere that when he did yoga towards the end of his career that helped him out a lot. Do you think this may be something that could help other players prolong their careers?
people already forget just how bloody great Wayne Rooney was at playing football
Some of us don't. I think young Rooney was fabulous player mate.
I'm so excited about him. He does does remind me of Ronaldo in some ways when he first started to really make an impact. He's beginning to produce goals out of nothing on his own, he's bulked up a bit and his lay-offs and hold up play have really improved. Got confidence in spades too and that venomous shot he's got in his locker
Rooney has 253 goals.
Rashford has 41. He will need another 212 goals to equal and 213 goals to match Rooney's record.
If we assume the following scoring record...
Rest of this season 2018-2019 - 8 goals
2019-2020 18 goals
2020-2021 17 goals
2021-2022 19 goals
2022-2023 26 goals
2023-2024 23 goals
2024-2025 19 goals
2025-2026 24 goals
2026-2027 17 goals
2027-2028 16 goals
2028-2029 14 goals
2029-2030 9 goals
2030-2031 - transfer to Salford City
then no I am afraid he will score 251 goals which is 2 short of equalling Rooney's record.
I would have loved to see what Januzaj could have become under a manager like Fergie. When he first came to United it seemed like he had the talent to be absolutely world class but I felt Van Gaal stifled his natural creativity (much like he did to Di Maria).
I think the bit in bold is good. I read somewhere it was beginning of last season that he came in 2 weeks early before pre-season as he thought that he needed to work on bulking out, Dwight Yorke who shares the same gym says about it in this in this Article although a bit old .
I liked the attitude at the time as it shows he is willing to put in a bit of personal sacrifice to enhance his career.
There is only one answer to that: maybe.
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