Custis: Sir Alex Ferguson tells players they’ll Make United Great Again! #MUGA

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    LoveFootball Banned

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    I'm obsessed with Mourinho like you are obsessed with me? I'm doing my best to ignore all your attempts to get a reaction from me but you never tired, do you? I'm all for having a chat on a topic on here but I'm not interested on responding to you if you have nothing to talk about, I don't have time to waste.
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    OK mate.
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    mancan92 Full Member

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    mourinho doesn't say thinks for no reason everything is strategic. Of course he's having a dig at fergie
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    17Larsson Not a malefactor just a lagomorph

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    That really doesn't sound like a dig at Ferguson in fairness to him. He is just responding to articles and the general feeling that he is a dinosaur now by mentioning the fact that he is still young and has won trophies very recently.

    But anyway he shouldn't be infecting this SAF thread. Less talk of Jose, more adoration of the boss
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    I don't see the funny side in comparing our greatest manager to a murderous dictator.

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    Eckers99 Michael Corleone says hello

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    It's impossible. Every thread I go in you're there, telling everyone how Harry Kane and Danny Ings are the same quality or Jose is making coded criticisms of Fergie. It's sort of fascinating in its own twisted way but you're right, for both our sakes the ignore button is probably needed here. One less person to call you out on your bollocks.

    Cheerio.
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    JPB New Member

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    The Boss of all Bosses.
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    Imran Mamdani New Member

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    You're spot on. Everywhere you look from football clubs to businesses to multi-corporations - the focus is primarily on man management. It is what makes an organisation successful. Trust in your people. What I am unable to find an answer to though is the inadequate succession planning post SAF. Even if you take Moyes for example - I am led to believe it was SAF's decision - and I am by no means knowledgable enough to know the insides out of the succession but Moyes sits in the pile of old-thinkers.

    Anyhow, I think we have at least showed some signs of stabilisation in Ole. Let's hope that goes on to better things. onwards and upwards as they say - key test being tomorrow!
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    devilish Juventus fan who used to support United

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    I think that SAF saw in Moyes some elements of himself + he thought Moyes would be so grateful for the job that he will allow SAF to guide him or even managing him for the first few years. It turned out he was right for all the wrong reasons. Similarly to SAF Moyes was stubborn, fiercely loyal and independent. He would stuck to his own men rather SAF and he refused to take Sir Alex guidance. I happen to know people who were very close to people who worked with United at the time and I assure the situation was beyond toxic. Moyes barely ever left his office + there was this Lumsden guy whose job was to snoop around players, saying nothing and then vanish in Moyes office for 'briefing'. That was completely opposite to SAF's way with his open door and his first to come in and last to go out policy.
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    Imran Mamdani New Member

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    wow. didn't know most of that - removing the backroom staff straight away was the first sign of doom imo - anyway i don't want to dwell too much into this since it happened a while ago and we've all had our fair share of discussion on this topic so better to let go now. as much as I love and idolise SAF, I think it is fair to say he messed up the succession plans a little bit. Lessons learnt i suppose.

    to your point, the fact that SAF is being more inclusive now than previous 3 managers tells a lot about their philosophy as you rightly mentioned earlier. there are good signs all over the place atm and the team are gelling well with each other and ole. only time will tell i guess and personally i haven't been this happier since SAF days.

    honestly, i can't contain my excitement for tomorrows' game - though i've managed to source a match ticket at the spuds end. :(:(:(
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    Catt The least positive person in match threads ever

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    devilish Juventus fan who used to support United

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    SAF's policy was simple, focus on your job and the rest will be well taken care off. Nothing was left for chance. Secretaries were hired to keep calendars and send player's partners/children birthday/anniversary gifts, meanwhile the club invested heavily on Carrington Moss (Also known as fort knox) to keep player's privacy intact

    SAF's influence didn't stop to the first team squad though. He would meet with parents of 13 year old players who were considering signing their players with us, he would come early to work to say good morning to every single United staff and Giggs recalled going to a party were alcohol was served only to find a fuming SAF at the door. A friend of mine and a close friend of Sir Alex had an extra marital affair with a staff member. SAF found out in matter of weeks and the guy had a proper hairdryer and was threatened that he would lose every perk he had unless he called it off.

    Each person was made to feel special from the tea lady right to Eric Cantona or Cristiano Ronaldo. That is why we lost our way when he left and why I find it silly when someone like Gaz who was under just 1 manager preach about players giving their all under toxic managers. He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about
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    Apparently was at training today as well. Is he managing from behind the scenes?
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    Our new, unofficial DoF? Can't imagine he's picking the team though! He's too respectful for that.

    Thing is, it's gotta be like a royal visit... remind the players what club they play for.
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    If Saf is there again today, just makes my point as why I’m not fully behind Ole’s appointment. I genuinely just think everyone behind the scenes knows what’s happening. Imo, I believe Saf is the main man at the mo, his trusted lieutenant, McPhelan, is there as the link between Saf and Ole.

    Saf and Gill seem to have become more hands on.
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    17Larsson Not a malefactor just a lagomorph

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    Gill?
    If results and performances continue to be this good what is the problem
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    ‘I won this, I won that‘

    Yes, all on your own Jose.

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    thank the lord we don't have to listen to this tripe on a weekly basis anymore
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    What happens when Saf is not around? Let’s not forget, he’s 77 & just recovered/recovering from a brain hemorrhage.
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    The great man is 77 years old and have had a stroke. He is there to inspire the players and remind them what the club is about.
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    17Larsson Not a malefactor just a lagomorph

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    He's just sharing some advice/inspiration to the players. No way is he involved in day to day things.
    Why mention Gill? Has he been around again?
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    Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær Lutefisk is it!

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    Seen in the stands a lot lately, old Gill.
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    Straight after Jose was sacked, he was at Carrington a day or two later. Indicates he’s involved in some capacity. I’m guessing might more in terms of the reshaping the football side of things.
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    AgentSquirrel Full Member

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    Except according to the Telegraph, he was there to see Giuseppi Rossi (which is too random a fact to be made up - apparently he's doing some coaching there?). A lot of people work/train/coach at Carrington so you can't say what involvement SAF is having at all. He probably feels more comfortable going to Carrington (for any reason) now that Ole is there.
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    Very so. However, Ole has said he’s spoken to him so many times that it’s no coincidence that Saf will have some involvement.
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    Thank you Fergie, very cool.
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    Guess it was too random of a fact made up then?!
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    Rossi isn't doing any coaching at the club. He laughed off the report on twitter himself. Was along the lines of me "Me coaching? aahahhahaha" with a link to the article.
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    Was he not there to see Rossi, which is the bit I referred to as too random to be made up? And the entire point of my post, was that he wasn’t necessarily going in to back-door manage the first team like you’re suggesting.
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    No, he wasn’t there to see Rossi.
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    AgentSquirrel Full Member

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    Where is that mentioned? I checked Rossi’s twitter and the only thing there is a denial that he’s there coaching?:confused:
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    So Saf made a trip all the way to see just Rossi, at carrington, who wasn’t coaching there? A bit of special trip to “just” go and see Rossi...if he was even there?!
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    AgentSquirrel Full Member

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    All the way? He's not being driven there from London. Also, Rossi is in Manchester judging from his twitter. An ex-United player without a club. Where might he train to keep fit? Who does he know with lots of contacts in the football world that might help him find a new club as he has done for numerous other ex-United players? It's a more reasonable explanation than Sir Alex being spirited in to manage the first team at 77 years old, after a health problem that nearly killed him:confused:
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    So he’s gone to see an old player of his, where he’s been chauffeured, to just go and see Rossi? Come on, don’t be so gullible. Some people lap up everything the media give them.
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    17Larsson Not a malefactor just a lagomorph

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    You stated as a fact that he didn't go to see him when you actually have no idea, anymore than the rest of us
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    Very true. But we can hazzard a guess, in his current condition, he never went to Carrington to just go and see an ex-player!
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    17Larsson Not a malefactor just a lagomorph

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    I would also guess he didn't go to Carrington to back seat manage United in his current condition
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    He seems very much more involved since the sacking of Jose. Has been in and around the squad a lot more. Or was going to visit ex players then too?

    Would make sense to meet ex players in a neutral place. Maybe like he did with his class of 92 a few weeks back? But no, that wouldn’t make sense.