Discussion in 'Current Events' started by p_ps_sock, May 26, 2008.
Interesting view from the US on the Daily Mail- is a long article so won't cut and paste it.
My mate just got a job working on the "current affairs" desk at the Mail. I like to tell him he's part of an evil machine now.
Ian Brown had it right.
A mate I used to work with recently moved from their personal finance desk onto the business desk. He is pretty liberal- just a decent job and pretty well paid with a few nice perks thrown in.
It's definitely a misconception that most of the journos that work there actually believe the bile they spew out.
Oh definitely. And he would fall into that category too. I know he did have a pretty strong wrestle with his conscience before taking the job, but to be fair, if you're in the field of journalism, and one of the most hit websites on the planet gives you column inches, you'd have to be fairly strong-willed to turn it down.
I despise the paper. But would jump at the chance to work on their sport desk.
My mate used to work on the same trade mag as me and when he moved to the Mail he pretty much had to burn half of the contacts who got him that job cos the Mail's stance was that all life companies were evil.
Yep, I would happily work on their personal finance desk- it does a lot of good campaigning work exposing bad practice etc...but there is obviously a lot about the paper to hate. That New Yorker article is right though- the website is strangely compelling, even if just to laugh at the reader comments.
I love the New Yorker piece quoting Esquire's verdict on the DM- 'it's like your purse-lipped mother-in-law'
So true (more so for my missus but that's a different story).
I cannot remember the last time I enjoyed an article so much, I laughed out loud at points.
Yep was pointed out to me by a leftie colleague- love the bit about our tabloids being 'beserk and shouty' and it is a clinical dissection of the paper. Their columnists range from 'sensible to unhinged'. Interesting insight into Paul Dacre too- the carrier bag in a tree story etc...
Sorry- one last reference to that article. Some lefties hate the DM so much that they set up some kind of proxy site so that liberals could browse it without giving them more traffic
That Dacre bloke sound clinically insane.
The Daily Mail are being the Daily Mail again.
The front page story on their website is 'Britain's hardest working Dad' decided to leave the United Kingdom with his wife and 12 children.
The story bangs on about how things are difficult here, how there are no short or long term prospects and that they are leaving for Australia. This guy has no overtly special skills, he has no job lined up yet the Daily Mail glosses over that and the fact Australia has a reputation for being especially strict on immigration.
For a newspaper that likes to pride itself in patriotism it does know how to put a negative spin on everything. What makes it especially hilarious is if an Australian family with 12 kids, with the father going from job to job without specialised qualifications brought them to the United Kingdom with no job lined up they would have a front page story ridiculing them and ridiculing us - such a family goes the other way and still they ridicule us.
For all of you people who are against the Daily Mail you sure know a lot about it's contents! hmmmmmm
I am not 'against' it, its stance on many things annoy me.
Though I read all the newspapers here on at least a semi-regular basis, to test my views of affairs and breakout of the reinforcement theory of reading articles aligned to your own stance.
Surely that's the best reason to be against anything?
I'd like to tell you how easy it was for my Dutch brother in law and his then Non working Chinese wife, to get Australian Citizenships and Passports
But i wont, because then you might realise what you wrote is nonsense
I too have no special skills and am doing 10 times better than i would be in the UK
But did you manage to take in a swan?
I like doing that too. But not with The Daily Mail. It has nothing to teach me.
That is the first time I have ever heard of anyone comment that Australia is easy to get into, all previous reports and examples I have heard is of how difficult it is if you are not on the required skills shortages list.
This will be the second time then. You can get into any country in the world if you have the know how.
You listen to the wrong reports, something you confirm with a lot of posts
Just because I hear of one doesn't mean I change my position.
No, i'm sure of that
Unless it's coupled with a stat, favours your bias and comes from a favoured source
They're urging support for Le Pen
I though the Mail were done supporting European far right political figures
I hate all the animal cruelty stories that they put up. That stuff turns my stomach and I never read them, but they always put up lurid headlines and photos which give me the gist of what happened.
Typical persecuted little Englanders sucked right into the comments of this story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rary-shelves-parents-complain-offensive.html#
And what heinous assault on out literary liberties are these people so outraged about? Well apparently "A survey of 98 library authorities took in more than 300 complaints from the last five years about 'unsuitable, inappropriate or offensive' works. Half of them were about children's books."
So that'd be 150 complaints about childrens books over 5 years to 98 authorities... 0.3 complaints per authority per year. Apparently there are 208 Library Authorities in the UK with a total of around 4,500 libraries - an average of around 22 per authority. So that'd be 0.01 complaints per library per year. What a sinister, leftie, PC brigade plot! It'll not be long until all our kids are permitted to read is the Communist Manifesto.
This guy has also done his maths:
They've got pics of a spider eating a snake today.
I bet the slider has better maths skills.
Just what I always thought.
Is your BBQ ageing you? Why that delicious char-grilled food could be giving you wrinkles and even cancer
Christ, if ever you were looking for a definition of 'self-parody' then look no further than that DM headline.
As a woman, I particularly dislike the double standards of the DM - they will print apparently sympathetic stories about women with eating disorders for instance, and then also print pictures of some perfectly normal-looking D-list celeb with a dimple on her thigh and make barbed comments about how she's let herself go.
No wonder so many young women are anguished about their appearance, to the detriment of everything else.
Exactly, they do it all the time. It's despicable really.
According to Newsworks, the highest demographic of Mail readers is women over 55 (incidentally anyone under 44 account for less than 25% of their readership*) More often than not married, stay at home or retired, and obviously quite well off. Align that with the Mail's general M.O of proving how the country's gone to the dogs, and you can see why stories bitching about the younger generation of (usually lower class [than them]) women appeals to it's core readership of gossipy housewives.
For example, things like this...
According to Tabloid Watch, the MailOnline has published 97 articles mentioning Kim Kardashian since 1 June.
Top quality news.
* Incidentally, The Sun's biggest demo is men under 44. So even when the bitchy old croans who read the Mail die off, we're still fucked.
Though on the bright side, the highest demo of Guardian & Independent readers is the 15-25 age group....So come on younger generation! We believe in you!! - Even if the Mail doesn't
I always thought it was a fairly recent shift, but very much not apparently. According to that great New Yorker piece, it was specifically rebranded towards women in the 70s, with the strapline “Every woman needs her Daily Mail.” Brilliantly managing to combine a female friendly appeal with light chauvanist patronisation.
So is it so shit and over-dramatic because it's directed towards women?
That reminds me of a bloke at college who stood on a table in a packed bar and announced, as if in the throes of a great revelation, "All women...love all cock...up them...all the time". Which I believe held the record of 'most hyperbolic claim ever' until just this summer, when Will Absolute began analysing United's transfer record on the Caf.
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