Danny Rose | Injured yet again

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    Adisa Full Member

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    Think it's time he got his own thread. This has been rumbling for a while. left out of yesterday's squad despite having no issues. Starting to look a lot like the Kyle Walker situation.
    I can't emphasise how much of a boost a fit and in form Rose would be for us in January. Imo, I see no point waiting until the summer.
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    Kapardin Full Member

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    40 million and Shaw seems fair enough for prising a player from a rival. Rose is not world class but he's streets ahead of the options we have.

    Then again, its' the Mirror. He could have simply been left out due to injury.
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    Adisa Full Member

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    Think Shaw is included in the 40m figure.
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    roonster09 Full Member

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    Rose is also injury prone player. IIRC he never played more than 30 league games in a season. So even with him we need proper backups.
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    AndyJ1985 Full Member

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    Would be happy with this. We desperately need a left back.
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    K2K Full Member

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    He's hardly played any football this year.

    Im not a fan on signing crocks.
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    suhaylah New Member

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    Wait until we sign Gareth Bale :D
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    poacher Banned

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    I was against buying Shaw and I am against buying Rose. He's too expensive and injury prone and older. I would prefer Ghoulam on a free or Alex Sandro if we are going to spend big. English players tend to be overrated and overpriced and dealing with Daniel Levy will be a nightmare. I am sure there are tons of cheaper and better alternatives in Italy, Germany, France and Spain.

    All the signs point to us signing Rose and overpaying as per usual but I hope the club starts being smarter in our transfer dealings and stop overpaying for average 'talent'.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member Scouse Lover

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    Indeed. Didn't realise his record was so bad. Deal doesn't look as attractive.
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    settembrini Full Member

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    If I had to pick one transfer I think will happen in January this would be it. Think it makes sense for everyone although Levy will make things difficult by demanding a large fee plus Shaw.
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    roonster09 Full Member

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    Yeah, even I checked it few months back. Always thought he is Evra kind of player when it comes to injuries.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    He hasn’t played any champions league minutes but been on the bench. Is he cup tied?
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    andersj Nick Powell Expert

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    Would be so stupid. 28 next year, expensive, poor attitude and injury prone. Don’t get me wrong, I defended the purchase of Matic despite his age because he was a bit «one-of-a-kind». But Rose, despite being very good, is not.

    Spending a huge amount on players like this is inefficient use of funds. We can’t afford that. We need to purchase players who puts us in a position where we can go for the world class-players when we have the chance.

    Jorge at Monaco would probably cost a similar amount. Maybe slightly more. But he is seven years younger. In five years time we would have to spend money on replacing Rose. If we buy Jorge we could instead use that amount on competing with City, Bayern and Real for a world class-player.
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    no thanks, shit haircut
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    Who then gets injured 5 minutes into his debut.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    Would probably take him 5 years to get to Rose’s level too.
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    Penna Kind Moderator (with a bit of a mean streak)

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    It was discussed on TV before the Arsenal-Spurs match yesterday, he wasn't injured (apparently).
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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    Injury prone player coming to United? What could possibly go wrong.
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    Is he really injury prone...isn't this his first major injury?
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    andersj Nick Powell Expert

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    This is a player who has already represented Brazil, and been included in the squad for them several times.
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    The cretin Levy would want upwards of 40-50m for him, for that Money we should just test Juventus for Alex Sandro who isn't as injury prone and is far better than Danny Rose.
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    FireballXL5 New Member

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    I've never rated him. £40m? You're 'avin a Turkish incha?
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    Juve rejected 60for Sandro and signed him to a new contract.
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    He's a very good player IMO, but yeah has a bit of an attitude and a big ego. Would be sad to see him go but if his heads away I would pack his bags myself. I think the figure of £40M would be right, he's English, in his prime and under contract till 2021. I wouldn't call him a crock, this is his first major injury but we have yet to see if he will get back to the level he was at. I can't see a swap deal happening.
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    I think we will be looking to replace Valencia in the next couple of seasons as well, there is a big job on our hands it seems.

    If you look at City, the fullbacks are what makes the difference in the premier league now, they can win you matches.

    Sandro would be my first choice, it is clearly obvious that he is available at a certain price otherwise Chelsea wouldn;t have tried as hard as they did in the summer. Then after Sandro I am torn between Rose and Ghoulam. Rose has the premier league experience and to be hoenst has been very consistant since the start of his career, but is he one of the top top talents? Not really. Ghoulam is great going forward from what I have seen of him but no-where near as strong as rose defensively.

    I suppose it comes down to a toss up of paying a shed load of cash for Sandro who offers everything. Paying a pretty hefty sum for Rose who can contributes both defensively and attacking but that step down from Sandro. Or getting Ghoulam reasonably cheap/free who contributes really well in attack but could be a bit dodgy at the back.

    My order would be Sandro which your probably looking at £80M, Rose most likely £50M with Levy overseeing it, then Ghoulam on a free in the summer potentially.

    Then there is Alonso, would love him but never going to happen.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    Good for him. Never played premier league though and we lack the quality there rather not take the risk.
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    Another player whose reputation has been enhanced by being injured. He’s a good player, but I would want to see him play regularly for Spurs first and see if he’s capable of reproducing his form from before his injury. It’s not as if he was great for 4-5?years, I would be worries he is/was a flash in the pan.
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    Random Task Full Member Scouse Lover

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    Don't like his attitude one bit, they way he openly pimped himself out during summer is a massive turnoff for me.

    Besides, Ashley has made that leftback position his own with some quality performances of late and he seems to be developing an understanding with Martial too.
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    poacher Banned

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    How about Aaron Martin from Espanyol? He's in great form and has a 26m buyout clause. Jose Gaya from Valencia would also be available for around 20m to 25m.
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    BennyBlanco fixated with Shaw's bum

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    He's never played that many games, also feel Pochettinos system suits his game, where they often have him pushed high, with high intensity press.
    I dont think our lower intensity falling off, positional style would suit him as much.

    Also he's coming off a big injury and jurys out if he'll get back to previous form and would cost serious money, all in all i'd pass.
    I wouldn't mind taking a look at someone like Tierney though.
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    Just how bad is his injury record? Really don't want another crock. What's the point swapping one English left back who never plays for another?

    Young is solid there, and is always fit. You can't underestimate that.
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    Please no. If we really need a LB buy Tiernay. 40 mil plus Shaw whilst hurting a rival would be Levy’s masterstroke. How all of a sudden has Rose been transformed in to Roberto Carlos by our fans. It’s honestly ridiculous.
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    I don't want Rose however we do need a new leftback and probably a rightback while we are at it. Young and Valencia are both 32 years old and neither are specialist fullbacks. Young offensively is ok but is a shite defender and Valencia can't cross the ball. Better fullbacks would transform our team.
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    Bit risky for Martin to come in with little first team experience and fill the gap where we need real quality. Gaya is a good shout though, very solid all round player, played a lot for Valencia and still on 22.
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    R'hllor Full Member

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    Giving Shaw and money would be plain stupid, hell i wouldnt even sell them Shaw, feck them and feck that bald cnut.
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    Alex Sandro is the best leftback we could get but since he would likely cost 70m to 80m that represents too much of our likely 150m transfer budget. I would think Ghoulam on a free or Gaya at around 25m represent good value options and that would still leave enough funds for a CM (Jorginho) and a RW (Leon Bailey) and an #10 (Fekir). We might still have a few dollars left for Kostas Manalos on a free or Jonathan Tah for his release of 22m. Spending 40m to 50m cash plus Shaw for Rose or 70 to 80m on Sandro wouldn't be a wise investment.
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    I think Young is underrated defensively. I've never seen him make a mistake, and he always seems to be in the right place. I agree he needs replacing long term, probably next season even, but for now I'm happy with our fullbacks.
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    Wilson Litchmore Full Member

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    I think there's a few on here that questioned Walker to City for 50m but that looks like money well spent now and I think Rose will be the same. The only downside is if Shaw is going the other way, I suspect they might have the last laugh.....
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    Yeah, I'd rather we kept Shaw out of the deal.
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    In a recent interview, Rio was asked to name the best defender in the league and he picked Rose. Thought that was a bit weird.