Danny Rose | Injured yet again

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    Adisa Full Member

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    Reckon we would do a deal for £35m
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    cyberman Full Member

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    Id pay the extra money as a premium for a mid season move.
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    Devil may care Full Member

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    I'd rather wait until the summer to see if we can get a better player with a better attitude, he's looked rusty as feck since he came back, let him see the rest of the season through at Spurs and see what he looks like in the summer at the very least.
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    Un4givableB Full Member

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    £10 more than we would get for Shaw. That would make it £30m.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    Whilst Rose has more medals. So good for them.
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    United Pro Full Member

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    Wait what? I'm fairly sure Rose has never any trophies and hence no winners medals. Out of those other 3: Mendy has won the Ligue 1, Tierney has won quite a few Scottish domestic trophies and Sessegnon has won the under 19 Euros. Unless I've misinterpreted what you were saying, your point is not true.
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    davidmichael Full Member

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    I’d much rather we sold Shaw, Darmian AND Blind then signed Alex Sandro and Ryan Sessegnon, can shift Young over to the right to rotate with Valencia.

    Makes no sense to go for Danny Rose for £50 million when you can most likely get Alex Sandro for £60 million, Alex Sandro is arguably the best left back in the world and a year younger and played at the highest level for years whilst Sessegnon is potentially amazing and could play further forward long term.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    You said we’ll end up with Rose and they will have the yoongsters to replace him. I’m saying who cares if Rose comes here and picks up medals with us. Couldn’t careless who they brought to replace him. He’s better than them currently. That was my point.
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    United Pro Full Member

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    I wasn't the one who made the point initially and I was only replying to your comment as it appeared untrue. The point that @SwansonsTache made was that financially it makes more sense to invest £50m on a younger player than Rose who will be 28 come next summer. Generally speaking that point is valid, but in our case we took that approach with Shaw and it hasn't worked out, so we could do with the finished article now rather than hoping the player will full fill his potential in several years.
    I agree with you in that Rose would be an automatic upgrade, whilst the same can't be said for say Tierney or Sessegnon. However, I don't believe that Rose, with all things considered, is worth even close to £50m and that £35-40m is a fairer deal for all.
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    KingMinger22 City >>> United. Moaning twat

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    Buy.
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    Ikon Full Member

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    I do rate Danny Rose, but have to agree that if we are chucking about £50m quid, then make an enquiry for Sandro or Alaba...!!
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    United_We_Stand Full Member

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    Writes Miguel Delaney
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    izec Full Member

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    Delaney knows nothing, just summarising the rumours. Could havee thrown in Goretzka in there too for a more believable piece
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    Adisa Full Member

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    Wish it were someone else's article.
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    SS Full Member

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    If he's going to be £50m, we might as well go for Sandro.
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    Adisa Full Member

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    Happy for him to come.
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    wolvored Full Member

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    Paper talk, who knows who, if anyone, we are bringing in outside of the club? Morata was done and dusted in the summer according to the press, along with Griezmann and Fabinho.
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    Trizy Full Member

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    This.
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    Mourinhonista Full Member

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    If Jose wants him, get him. His overall transfers have been very good. 28 years of age isn't old, he can play 4-5 on a very high level and that's a long time in football. Furthermore it's good to have another English international within our ranks, don't want to become Arsenal.
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    I'm pretty happy with this. Price is slightly off-putting but other than that it would be a good signing.
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    Juventus are going to want a lot more than $50m for Sandro. Isn't Chelsea already offering $60m?
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    Canuckred64 Full Member

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    Juventus are going to want a lot more than $50m for Sandro. Isn't Chelsea already offering $60m?
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    MadMike Full Member

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    To be honest, after spending £30m on the hottest young left back in the country (Shaw) and seeing him fail to develop into the player we hoped he'd become... I can kind of understand if Mourinho wants a ready player like Rose instead of repeating the experiment with Sessegnon or Tierney.

    And that's despite my worry that Spurs might mug us off and still have better LBs in Ben Davies and whoever they buy to replace Rose. Like they did by selling Walker to City for double the combined cost of Trippier and Aurier.

    At least City are quite happy with Walker and if Rose performs similarly here, it'll all be good. It's only his recovery from injury that's a concern for me.
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    groovyalbert Full Member

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    Haven't seen him this season, how's he been? Has he played much?
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    acnumber9 Full Member

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    And they're worse off for it. They've badly missed Walker's pace on the right flank. Just as they miss Rose on the other side. Davies is good but he's not playing to the standard Rose was.
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    MadMike Full Member

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    They are not missing Walker. Trippier has 7 assists in 15 games which is better than Walker has ever done for them or City.
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    redpatron New Member

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    Throw in darmian or blind. Juve going to need a replacement lb. darmian is better than anything than can find in Italy
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    CechMate1 Full Member

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    I feel Rose to Utd is the most likely option. Not a chance Spurs sell to us or Arsenal, it would be pointless for him to swap Spurs for Liverpool and I can't see City splashing big money on another WB when they've spent almost 150 million on three of them in the Summer

    While Young has done well for you guys, Rose would be a big upgrade on him and I can see Shaw going the other way in some sort of deal
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    acnumber9 Full Member

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    They certainly are. Stop being obsessed with stats and watch them play. Matt Ritchie has more assists than Christian Erickson. Would they be better off with him too?
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    DCP New Member

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    Spurs massively miss Walker, I watched them at the weekend and it just looked like something was missing on the right. They'd certainly be better off with Aurier starting.

    Shaw and cash for Rose could be a good deal for both parties. Shaw is a good player, for a variety of reasons it just hasn't worked out for him at Utd.
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    Robbie Boy Full Member

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    Spurs definitely miss Walker. Tripper is a better crosser of the ball but that's about it. Walker is better at everything else.
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    Random Task Full Member

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    They are missing both Walker and Rose. Both have played pivotal roles in Spurs' entire Dynamic for the last few seasons.

    Alli shares and excellent understanding with Rose down that left flank, the latter being absent for the majority of the season has adversely affected his performances this season.
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    The Swellhead New Member

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    He is good and at his best was better than Walker, tbh would rather Ben Davies, has to be the most unrated fullback in the league, they miss Walker but have not missed Rose
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    The Swellhead New Member

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    Alli was at his best the second half of last season when Rose was out but it is fun to make up stuff isn't it

    Like saying Young playing wingback is the reason for De Gea great form
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    Random Task Full Member

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    Alli has performed at an increasingly high standard for a number of years now, in combination with Rose. Are you saying they do not share an excellent understanding? If that is the case, you would be wrong.
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    The Swellhead New Member

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    Nope but saying Rose being out is why Alli hasn't been great this season so far is just as wrong, he has since being in the Prem had stronger 2nd half of season than 1st
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    Guys why is Ben Davies not the target here? He has been one of there best Spurs players for the past year and is consistently performing at a high level (unlike Rose who looks a shadow of his former self) he is also the better defender of the two (OK not as good going forward maybe) plus he is younger and we could probably get him for a lower fee.... We will end up paying 50mill for a guy with a lot of question marks hanging over him if we sign Rose...
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    MadMike Full Member

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    Matt Richie doesn’t play for Spurs so the analogy is sadly stupid. Trippier replaced Walker in the same position, same set up, same team. He started doing so from the latter part of last season.

    “Stop obsessing about stats” is the classic response to someone using stats to augment his argument. I’ve watched Spurs plenty, their wingbacks play very well and have drawn praise for basically every pundit too. The reason Spurs are not performing to last season’s standard is not because they are missing Walker.