Danny Rose

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  1. Nov 28, 2017

    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    Season 13-14, his fellow pros voted him the best left back in the league. He was in the official Premier League team of the year.
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    That's right. Usually Levy would be shooting down rumours left right and centre and quoting ridiculous prices.

    I would be really frustrated if we sign Rose and they end up signing Sessegnon, as I believe has the potential to be a Bale-type signing. They always seem to be one step ahead in the transfer market.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    Well, Bertrand will be 29 when he joins which means we will be in the market for another LB in 2years when he declines and he will have no resale value.
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    R'hllor Full Member

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    Stay away clear imo, i wouldnt even consider giving them Shaw for "i have to google it" moron, let alone pay full amount.
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    GlastonSpur Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum

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    Indeed, he was voted the best LB by the PFA for two seasons running: last season and the one before.

    Spurs will be very happy for him to stay ... but if he really wants to move back north, and if sign Sessegnon and are offered a good price for Rose, then ...
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    no daddy issues on this one?
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    BarcaSpurs Full Member

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    Hes a phenemonal left back and his level for the last 2 years is far above what Shaw produced in his team of the year season, so that comparision is a bit off, for sake of the other mentioned comparision hes also a much better full back than Walker imo. Before his injury he was right up there with Kane, Eriksen, Dembele and Alderweirald as the best players on the team completely dominating the left flank with no support (as we didnt play with a left winger)

    If there's any indifference about the transfer by spurs fans its simply because hes barely played in about a year (and we've generally coped) and theres question marks over whether the injury could cause further problems, not to mention the interview with the sun somewhat burnt his bridges with the fans. Overall the thought of losing a potentially injury prone player who wants to be elsewhere whilst weve shown we can cope without and we know we can sign an exciting prospect in Sessegnon isnt going to be a crushing one for spurs fans. Doesnt take away from the fact he is a fantastic left back though.
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    I would be fecking ecstatic if we traded him for Shaw.
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    Vault Dweller Full Member

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    I'd rather see us buy Tierney if I'm being honest. That lad has the hallmarks of being an excellent player. He is already very good, quick, strong, tough, great defending and on the front foot and would have the mentality that suits Jose / being at United. As he is young we would have him for a quite a while possibly too.
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    I agree
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    PieCrust Full Member

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    I would be very happy with Rose as a January signing, which seems possible. Instant improvement over everyone else at the position.
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    Tom Van Persie No relation

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    Good January signing for us. Rose has been one of the best full backs in the league for the last few seasons and he's pretty much the finished article so we know what we're going to get with him. I can understand why some are upset at missing out on Tierney/Sessegnon but like others have said we've already tried buying a youngster and hoping he grows to become our left back long term. Didn't work out with Shaw. Time to go out and get a player we know is going to slot in and perform at a high level.
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    GlastonSpur Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum

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    There are always potential daddy issues with Mourinho - need you even ask?
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    :lol:
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    Not sure if English isn't your first language, but by strong, I meant "good", rather than it being literal about his strength :lol:
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    It's always interesting reading the differing opinions on players.

    Many believe Rose is top class, especially in the Premier league.
    Some seem to believe he's massively overrated and only had 6months to a year of good form
    Others would prefer some talented youngster in

    For now i'd love to get Rose in, if we can establish that he's over his very bad injury. Calling him injury prone I don't think is accurate, as anyone can get smashed or have a freak injury.
    We need a quality player now. We tried the Shaw "guarantee us 10 years of quality" route, and we've tried the any old iron route.
    We need definite quality there, and we'll have to pay a premium.
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    GlastonSpur Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum

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    Rose starts for Spurs tonight (just as he did away to Dortmund) ... so any suggestion that he's being ushered towards the exit door in January looks a bit shaky IMO.

    Pochettino is rotating between him and Davies on the left, just as he's rotating between Trippier and Aurier on the right. This seems to be a sensible policy, given that under our system the wingbacks have to work harder than perhaps any other players in the team.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    Him being sold in January was ruled out as soon as he played in the CL imo.
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    GlastonSpur Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum

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    Probably yes, not least because it makes him CL cup-tied for any prospective buyer.

    I think Spurs and Rose will take stock in the summer and reach a decision then.
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    Rose would stay if it wasn't a world cup year imo.
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    No I get what strong option is but I was just a little shocked that people think he is a strong option. Guess you could put me in the category of thinking he is vastly overated. He’s obviously a decent standard of FB but at the money spoken about it’s just mental. He’s had a season and a half where he’s looked good, but nothing suggests he is the player to improve on our LB position. I feel like Spurs is his level and he had a purple patch of form but I’d rather take a cheese grater to my nut sack than see the club spend 50 mil on him when we have a better option sitting on our bench(If only the little fecker could stay fit)
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    50m would be horrible, but I don't think they could charge the same as Walker after his injury spell, and obvious desire to leave.

    I don't see any left backs in the league as being better than him.
    At one stage i'd have argued Shaw was better, but that just looks ridiculous now.
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    I'd rather get ripped off by Juve for Alex Sandro than deal with Levy and get ripped off for a barely above average Rose.
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    Mike09 Banned

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    Do you watch him a lot? It seems he's very highly rated in here but he's playing in scottish league. From your description he's a proper full back but what about his ability as wingback? How good his crossing is? What about his dribble? First touch? passings? Work rate? Anything special about him when going forward?
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    Yea man I get to see him play nearly every week. My dad and brother have an affinity for Celtic and as I live in Glasgow I watch them with them. He is a very impressive player.

    I understand because he plays in the Scottish league people might be skeptical, but I think he is the real deal. When he plays in Europe for Celtic or for Scotland he is one of the few players than genuinely looks class. The defensive side he has got tied down, so no worries there.

    Going forward he is excellent too. He is very quick, which obviously helps on the backfoot too. He’s very intelligent on the ball, so he knows when to just keep the ball, when to release a man, and he doesn’t just run in a straight line, he actually thinks about where is going with the ball, and tries to exploit gaps and opportunities down the flank. His crossing is very good, as he knocks up some assists and scores a few goals a season too. He could play LB,LWB or even LW in my opinion, he’s got that much potential and ability. Also, I know he’s only playing in Scotland but he’s playing for Celtic, in front of 60,000 fans every week where the demands are high and the fans expect great football and the highest quality, and in Europe he doesn’t look out of place at all. He would have the exact mentality required to make it at United. He already has a very good base of skills and he would become even better here.

    Went on and on a bit there apologies :lol::wenger: but I think he’s an excellent player already, who would fully fulfill his potential with us and be even better.
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    KingMinger22 City >>> United. Moaning twat

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    I would be very happy if United added a Scotsman or another Englishman (Rose) to the first XI.

    Rose is quality. Tierney sounds an exciting prospect.
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    Rose is well above average, was excellent for 2 seasons.
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    Ashley Young is currently performing at the same level Danny Rose did last season and the season before. That was the case even before the Watford match. As things stand, Young's output is superior, though it will be interesting to see if Young can sustain this level.

    Rose 2016/7 2 goals and 3 assists in 18 PL starts, 1533 mins, pass completion 79%, 1.47 interceptions per 90 mins, 1.47 successful take-ons per 90 mins, 0.06 defensive errors per 90 mins

    Rose 2015/6 1 goal and 4 assists in 24 PL starts, 2132 mins, pass completion 76%, 1.65 interceptions per 90 mins, 1.18 successful take-ons per 90 mins, 0.04 defensive errors per 90 mins

    Young 2017/8 2 goals and 3 assists in 10 PL starts, 888 mins, pass completion 76%, 2.03 interceptions per 90 mins, 1.62 successful take-ons per 90 mins, 0 defensive errors per 90 mins

    Spurs won 16 of the 20 PL games Rose missed last season. The season before, they did appear to miss him when he wasn't on the pitch, winning 6, drawing 4 and losing 4.

    What does Danny Rose do better than Ashley Young ? What does Danny Rose give you extra to justify a £40m+ transfer fee ? Is it simply an age thing ? Consistency as a left-back over a longer period of time ?

    Danny Rose clearly offers a lot more attacking threat than Luke Shaw, Daley Blind and especially Matteo Darmian, though I suspect he may not be as good defensively as some of them.
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    I think Rose has better stamina and is more able to cover a flank more on his own. He's also a superior athlete right now in his stop/start quickness, acceleration and top end speed.

    That said I'm not 100% sure Rose would be the best buy. I'm not sure who would, but I trust Mourinho to figure it out.
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    It allow us to play a left footed player on the Left, whipping crosses in and allows us to replace Valencia (who can't cross) and play an in form Ashley Young on right whipping crosses in. Early crosses from the left, early crosses from the right.
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    I would be over the moon to see another Scotsman make it into the United first XI. He is very exciting, and I would love to see him given the chance to make it here.
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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    We should go for Kierney ahead of Rose. If we don't you just know Spurs will buy Kierney for a pittance after fleecing us for Rose, and we'll end up looking like mugs in a year or two.
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    Rose is so far off currently of what he's shown pre-injury, it is difficult to tell if he ever gets his prime level back now.

    Have to agree, we really should be going for that Celtic lad or Fulham's kid.
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    Agree 100%, I would much rather we went for Tierney. Also agree that if we went for Rose, it would be a team like Spurs that would end up buying him and getting the much better deal. Would love to see us take a chance on him.
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    Young’s recent good performance is definitely good for thought....,,

    I’ll wait until he performs like this for a sustained period bug If he can carry on in this form surely there’s no reason to buy a 27/28 year old ready made signing.......

    Makes sense to sign a younger LB who could be dipped in and out of the first team......Tierney or the lad at Fulham come to mind!

    I can see Utd paying the Spuds 50m for Rose...... who replace him with Sessegnon........ 4 years later
    Utd are paying the Spuds 50m for another Lb.
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    We need a quality left back for now. Don’t care how good Ashley Young is currently playing. Rose give us 5-6 years. That’s enough.
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    I'd be happy with signing rose. Valencia right, rose left, young providing cover for both.
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    Mirror saying Spurs are willing to sell Rose in January for £50m:

    He'd be a great signing for the winter window, but no chance I want us to spend even close to £50m for him, given that he's not even first teamer anymore, his recent injury record and his lack of desire to stay at Spurs long term. £35m/£40m is a fair deal for all parties imo.
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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    Never worth that. 23 year old Mendy is a £50m WB in todays market, Rose is not.

    Spurs will turn around and sign Tierney or Sessegnon for £15-20m and be better off in a year or two.