Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by K2K, Aug 6, 2018.
A very good point.
Di Marzio could have been led a merry dance again here
That he choose money over Madrid?
Truly, the only way United can compete with Pep Spain is by offering stupid money
It wasn't even money since his contract was leaked
£165,588 a week isn't chasing the money now!
They were facts two years ago. The two years since then hasn't exactly been a sunshine story for him at club level.
The context is, what is more plausible:
Raiola going rogue and trying to arrange a transfer against the wishes of his client because it is a fact that pogba is irreversibly happy to stay in Manchester
Raiola acting with the blessing of his client.
My comments about winning more in a better team were simply in response to why he'd ever want to leave. I don't think it's hard to imagine such reasons.
Don't go in summer, it's a furnace. Otherwise, recommendable.
The facts are we are in an even better position now since he joined!
Did Ramos want to leave Madrid when we had a contract agreed during the LVG era? Or when Ronaldos camp led us to believe he was rejoining us in fecking Moyes tenure?
Agents seeking out other clubs happens for numerous reasons, not just for a Liverpool fan trying to gloat on a Utd forum.
Feck Ill keep going. Umtiti was whored around Europe, Griezmann broke agreements two years in a row..
Eh, it's true enough that you were a surprise, but the rest of the post is incorrect. Barca never had any sort of agreement, and Madrid weren't willing to pay what United did. As Raiola said later on "Madrid didn't need Pogba. United did"
Like Coutinho? Suarez? Must be easy choice for them between Barca and Liverpool
Sure mate. Sure. Objective United fan believing that nonsense.
When you throw in all the add-ons and image rights, it rounds up to the equivalent of ~€12-13M a year(after tax) Which was the figure Di Marzio reported at the time
Barca did. They were caught meeting Juves representatives the year before and even posed for pictures together. It was election year and he was an election promise.
Is that all Pogba is on? Hardly.
I'm in a busy place, what he's saying?
What Pogba told everyone last season, ignore the fecking media. He's happy here, hasn't asked to leave or for a pay rise.
Yep, that football leak crowd..well...leaked it.
Theres bonuses involved but thats true with any top player
Why are all the oppo fans hanging around in here like flies around shit?
Thought they would want Pogba to stay considering how rubbish they say he has been..
They used his name for political reasons during the elections. Raiola played along. They never had any agreement with either Juventus or the player for the following season. They didn't even try to sign that summer because they already knew he was too expensive
That's very surprising. There are better way's going about getting a pay raise than letting your agent making a fool of himself.
Moratta confirmed they turned down an 80m euro bid from Barca yet 89m pounds was too much?
I mean, if we're using the logic that a club doesn't bid unless the player agreed to go there...
Juventus sold him for €105+5M. Yes, €80M isn't exactly close. I think Barcelona might have been willing to pay Pogba the wages he wanted given their recent track record. IMHO it was the other way around for us. Transfer fee not a big problem but wage demands were. Which is why we didn't fight you for his signing -player agreed to the contract you offered and turned down ours(according to Di Marzio some €4-6M less per year after tax). We weren't willing to go that far, so it was pointless to even talk with juventus. British media made it into a circus all summer long, while spanish media, and especially those close to Perez, discarded Pogba pretty much within a week of Di Marzio breaking the news of Pogba to United, and Di Marzio himself went about all summer mentioning nobody was competing with United and the deal was done
You can think what you like, but last season wasn't convincing. Let's see this season eh?
Being unconvincing isn't the same as being lucky. Sure getting luck involved some luck but we weren't that lucky to hold that position most of the season due to pure luck.
You can bet once the season starts they'll start shitting on him again.
It'd be funny to see everyone lose their shit even more, that's it. I'm not particularly bothered whether he stays or leaves given his performances these last two years - the only player I'd love to see leave United is De Gea and it doesn't look like that'll happen anytime soon, unfortunately.
If he continues to play like he did during the second part of last season, we'll have every reason to mate.
Yeah but hypocrisy is golden here. Once oppo fans heard he supposedly wants to leave he became a world beater.
Anyway he had few bad games sure but its completely overblown.
Anyway it's good we get to keep both DDG and Pogba.
Stretchings things a bit saying Pogba is a top three midfielder by quite some margin. I didn't think he played anything exceptional in the world cup but those around him, I would say, were exceptional.
I agree with you re Mourino with his negative style of play and fickle man management skills.
For my money, I hope that Mourino moves on at the end of the season if not improving our football and international standing and that Pogba gets moved on ASAP and becomes somebodies elses problem, he doesnt cut mustard with me with his childish attitude.
It is a fact. Mina was bought for around 10mil and sold for 30mil. Also, those "other" players you refer to either did not play in the WC or had a lukewarm performance. Pogba and Mina do not fit into either category so their values were inflated. You are just trying to ignore the facts to fit your narrative.
According to Mundo Deportiva Raiola is trying to force a move to Barcelona before august 31.
Don't see it happining honeslty, but that would suck.
Don't see how he has any leverage unless if he has the mafia kidnap Ed's family... Pogba's contract have plenty to run that even if he down tools he could be sitting around for a while
Good luck with that. Don't see Pogba doing this even if he wants to leave.
Not sure how reliable they are but the noise from Mourinho and Pogba seems like he's going no where.
Think it's relatively safe to assume that he's got contacts around Raiola's operation he trusts. The recent signings of ours he's been first to break would indicate this. I think this is all part of the necessary play to get Pogba a contract similar to Sanchez's.
If Barca were serious about Pogba that late on in the window, no way they offer us that deal. Not a chance. I'm relatively calm about this whole situation, as annoying as it is. Pogba will have a new bumper contract by the end of the year.
Considering the discontent after the transfer window this place would probably implode if he left.
No way we'll sell. Irrespective of what you think of him, he'd be a big loss and we'd look worryingly average in the middle of the park without him.
French media outlet RMC stating Pogba has no intention on leaving United and wants to stay and become a leader at the club..
Oddly enough it's not getting a mention?
Doesn’t adhere to the narrative that the club is imploding in on itself. Those with an axe to grind always drown out the people with more moderate sensible views.
Captain tonight and Jose praising him before the game.
And I would have RNC as reliable more than anyone else for French players
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