Diving- what about a three month ban if you get three yellows for diving?

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    Jippy Sleeps with tramps, bangs jacuzzis, dirty shoes Staff

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    How else can you stamp it out? Why the hell did Dele Alli feel the need to try and cheat while 3-0 up away to Huddersfield?
    Let's get draconian and stamp it out.
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    Skills Snitch

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    I don't get the hate for diving. It's the ref's fault if he can't spot a genuine foul, so instead 3 month ban for the ref for being shit at his job.
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    I think diving is a lot more instinctive than people realise. It's not a decision players rationalise.
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    arthurka Full Member

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    To be fair the Simpson handball v Bournemouth gets me going more than diving..
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    El cangrejo Banned

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    So we'll see a lot of the best flair players in the league missing out on a third of the season while cloggers who get three yellows for kicking them get nothing?

    Terrible idea.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    I still have no idea why diving offends Football fans so much. It is cheating but, not anymore cheating than a bad tackle.
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    GloryHunter07 Full Member

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    3 months? Jesus christ.
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    Rista Full Member

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    Players trying to con the ref are making his already hard job hell of a lot harder though. Not that I agree with this idea, just saying. I totally get the hate for diving.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Players are always trying to con the ref. See how both teams shout for every single throw in.
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    OnlyTwoDaSilvas Gullible

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    3 bookings, and the offender has to walk barefoot over 50 yards of Lego.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    That's too harsh and inapplicable.
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    Take them out and shoot them in the street like the dogs that they are
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    Ibi Dreams Full Member

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    Gaining a throw in unfairly is a bit different to gaining a penalty unfairly. And them shouting that it's their throw in or corner never actually works anyway
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    I am just saying players are always looking for a way to take advantage diving is just another version.
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    Ødegaard formerly MrEriksen Scout

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    Can agree with this.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    There's more outrage for diving than there is for dangerous tackles.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    I don't get the hate for murder. It's the polices fault if they can't prevent it.


    The panel should review every instance of diving in a match, whether the ref has given a yellow or not. If they deem it a dive then the player receives a 2 match ban. This rises incrementally with very further instance of diving. The more a player gives the heavier then penalty.
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    RaptorSlo Full Member

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    It's funny, cause even most fouls have a diving element added.

    Also, players getting punished for staying on their feet. Refs not giving the foul just cause the player didn't fall.
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    Cloud7 Full Member

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    I've said many times on here before, I find "tactical fouling"/"taking one for the team" to be far more unsportsmanlike and cheating than diving.
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    prateik Full Member

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    Really? Why?
    "Taking one for the team" is basically knowing the penalty for a tackle and accepting that.

    Diving is trying to get away with it and cheating. It is likely to get the opponent booked or sent off as well.

    Not even close for me. Diving is way worse.
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    Steven Seagull Full Member

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    Agree with this. Sometimes it's obvious but otherwise it's as natural as trying to slip a punch
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    The Don Metrosexual Candy Shagger

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    Jippy's next thread;

    Foul throws - What about sodomy as a punishment?
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    Borat Sagdiyev Full Member

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    Or that torture scene from Casino Royale :lol::rolleyes:
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    RedTillI'mDead A Key Tool

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    Nah make it broken glass! That'll teach them to act like glass!
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    Dr Baltar Full Member

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    20 game ban for blatant diving would do the trick.
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    The Don Metrosexual Candy Shagger

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    No. We're saving that for when the keeper picks up a backpass.
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    Oscie Full Member

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    And I think murder would be considered less of an offence in football than someone waving an imaginary yellow card, which people seem to despise for some reason. As if any ref has ever thought "I wasn't going to, but now he's done the hand thing, I'm having to book you, mate".
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    Or simply have refs use camera replay for decisions. Players shouldn't have to face 3 months off because of incompetent refs.
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    marukomu The Gatekeeper

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    Some are cheating but others are just trying to exaggerate an obvious foul which the ref would probably give feck all for. That's also why they roll around screaming.
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    UpWithRivers Full Member

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    This. They should have a panel of 5 watching the game on cameras. They can replay and each vote on a decision. The game continues as normal. But if they override the refs decision its sent to the ref. Buzzing in his pocket. He will then correct the decision after next break in play. Problem is if it happens in the 90th minute. Say a goal that comes from a dive. If the next break in play is the end if the match then the goal is still removed and player carded. Nothing's perfect. But I think its the best way forward. The players will slowly learn not to dive, cheat etc and the controversial change of ref decisions will die down.
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    Oscie Full Member

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    You're using a sledgehammer to peel a grape.

    What if it takes the panel 10 minutes to agree on a majority decision? Does the game go back 10 minutes? Or is there a time-limit on how long they get before the referee's decision stands?

    A scenario where someone dives and scores a goal indirectly from the freekick awarded that might have been offside, as a result and you have the VAR panel reviewing the goal, the diving panel reviewing the replay, the manager using his 'appeal' card because he thinks he saw an elbow in the melee which another panel has to review, and it's all one big clusterf*** supposed to 'improve' the game because the refs walking around with a vibrator in his pocket.
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    elmo Can never have too many Eevees

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    Geez, we're advocating harsher punishments, not forced retirement from the sport.
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    Gio 6 times Redcafe Draft Winner

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    Yeah I'd have them on par. They're both done because the punishment is light relative to the offence.
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    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    Three months ban? That's ridiculous. Maybe 1 extra game but even that is unfair since yellow is already punishment.
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    No. I don't want the game to stop at all. It just flows as normal. The panel can take as long as they need to. But if they find team A has gotten a goal by cheating then the goal is rescinded. If there is a punch in the face missed by the ref then the player is sent off. If the wrong player is sent off its fixed. No change to flow of the game. Ref makes the adjustments at break of normal play. there is no adjustment to time etc. You can say oh but it's not fair they scored an illegal goal and that lead us to be more attacking that lead to second goal conceded etc....but tough cookies. The first goal is rescinded the player booked and that's all. Its 100 percent better than now where he gets away with but and the goal stands.
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    Siorac Full Member

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    Which is fecked up, if you think about it. Diving is nowhere near as prominent a problem as football fans suggest; blatant, obvious dives are fairly rare, mostly it's just players exaggerating contact or going down easily. Which is okay.

    Players flying in studs first, both feet off the ground are far more of a menace - and they very often get away with it and get the "but he's not that kind of player" treatment.
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    Jetrooooo New Member

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    These are the worst kind of dives in my opinion. And they're so effective. Could find a good example, so took a funny one. But the player who keeps standing when nothing happens so often gets a yellow or red card, while it's such a blatant dive. They never get a yellow card for diving in these examples. It haven't seen it happening.
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    Atze-Peng Dortmund Fan

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    1. Make no one but the captain be allowed to complain to the ref. If anyone else complains, yellow.

    2. Make the video-proof everywhere and not just in Germany. Then give a clear cut red for every 100% sure dive. It's literally an attempt into cheatnig and thus a clear red is perfectly viable there. It just wasn't without video-proof, because the punishment was too high for the chance of being wrong.

    3. Profit.
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    T00lsh3d Full Member

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    I rang into talksport once when they had a debate on it and suggested that teams get a point docked once they get a certain amount of yellows for simulation. This way it would incentivise managers to tell their players not to dive, and therefore get at the heart of the problem. I thought then (and still do) that's it's a pretty decent idea
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    Wonder Pigeon 'Shelbourne FC Supporter'

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    Sounds good, but at the same time can we add a rule where players who commit 8 foul throws over a 2 year period have boiling oil poured over them?