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Does anybody else feel Paolo Dybala is overrated?

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Nick., Feb 22, 2019.

  1. Mar 12, 2019

    Jib Full Member

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    Yep.
    Tonight wasn't a big game..
    The 2016 final where he missed the penalty wasn't a big game and the Euro final wasn't a big game too...

    This guy is overrated.
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    JJ12 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Ignorance is bliss actually ;)
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    adexkola Arsenal supporter

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    Ekeke Full Member

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    Plenty of quality players have done less for Argentina than they should have. Politics is more important to them than results
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    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    There is a reason he started on the bench. He doesn't suit them for a high intensity game
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    JamesB__ Full Member

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    He was brilliant to watch tonight when he came in. Doesn’t mean he should’ve started, Allegri used him perfectly.
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    Peyroteo Professional Ronaldo PR Guy

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    He's a brilliant player for the easy league games. Not the most adaptable player and he has clear physical limitations so he needs the right tactical set up to thrive in these sort of games. Especially when playing for a defensive team like Juve.

    He was very good tonight.

    He'd have been twice the player he is now if he had been born in the era where the number 10 ruled football.
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    Andersonson New Member

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    He's overrated by many, some were saying he's world class and all. He aint. Juventus needs a top nr 10 and we even saw that inn tonight game. He's a very very good backup player though, but not good ebough to be a starting or a star player for clubs challenging for the CL trophy
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    ikes New Member

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    I thought he was very good against us and has a very unique playing style. On the cusp of being a luxury player but definitely has the potential to be WC with further consistency. He would slot into any CL challenging team.
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    DrRodo Full Member

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    Dunno if we can ever settle whos the best ever

    At least Ronaldo has to be the best player in the Champions League ever

    Can Messi die hard fans agree with that at least?
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    adexkola Arsenal supporter

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    Wrong thread boss.
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    DrRodo Full Member

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    Oh shoot my bad :D
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    MrEleson Full Member

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    He's not better than Griezmann at all.
  14. Mar 13, 2019

    abdo99 Full Member

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    obviously not world class but a good player.
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    Infordin Full Member

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    I actually thought he was good when he came on. At one point he was dribbling and shielding the ball from 4 Atleti players near the byline.
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    cheeky_backheel Full Member

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    Yet he was starting when Juve got to the finals 2 season ago?
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    Hawks2008 Full Member

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    The talent is there and imo he is on the cusp of being world class but something just feels lacking with him. Doesn't make him overrated though as he is still a very good player.
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    Andersonson New Member

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    And? Doesnt mean he's world class..

    Plenty of good and decent players play for top clubs
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    cheeky_backheel Full Member

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    It simply disproves your silly claim that he is not good enough to start for a CL contender.
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    Ish Lights on for Luke

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    A couple of years ago, he'd have been a muppet dream signing for our RW spot. On top of it all, he's supposedly good mates with Pogba.

    But now his reputation has taken a massive knock.
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    Infordin Full Member

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    Dybala, Isco, James, Coutinho, Ozil

    Funny how that position just disappeared from football within a few years.
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    NoPace Full Member

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    It makes sense, since 2nd strikers/support strikers whatever you call them disappeared first and they're fairly similar, just creators rather than finishers.
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    simonhch Horrible boss

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    Surely just depends on the coach. For example, I can see all of them excelling for City under Guardiola. Same for Spurs under Poch.
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    Rifer Full Member

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    I think he's rated just right. But yeah, the over rating and even World class claim of him (plenty of that noise before, diminishing recently) is just.. I don't get it.

    Agree with some post here stating there's something lacking about him, and it's not only because of his physical limitations. That something which can make players like him go to the next higher level.

    Love seeing him play. No need to use the physical dimension of football, if you can exploit the other aspects of it. His style of play is interesting.
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    MikeKing Full Member

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    On one hand, it might be a good time to take a punt on him when his stock is low, and we could even involve other players like Bailly and Darmian as I'm sure Juventus needs reinforcements. However, the fact he is Argentinian, has to move to Manchester and regain his form in a new league makes it highly unlikely it'd work out well for us. I would stay clear.
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    Ish Lights on for Luke

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    Makes sense bud
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    MUfreak New Member

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    I love this guy to shreds. He's quality as we all can see. He might not get you 20 goals a season but his performance and the way he gets others to play better is valuable to me.


    I feel like you will have this sense of quality with him in your attack.


    If we get him I'll be glad. Imagine our from three with him, Rashford and Martial, all three supremely talented. Martial with the skill, Rashford with the speed and leadership, Dybala with the trickery, all three with the instruction to go berserk on defenders, with Pogs roaming behind them. Damn! I gotta get the tissues now.
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    pensionator Full Member

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    The issue here is exactly the opposite, he is a finisher and not a creator. He is the prototype of a support striker and this is indeed how he gave his best.

    This season Allegri tried to make him play even deeper than usual (since it was the only way to play him as a starter, that is behind Ronaldo and Mandzukic) but it didn't work out very well. He is technically gifted and has an amazing long/curve shot and great composure in front of the goal, and that's how he should be used.

    For us at the moment he is a huge question mark tactically
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    Jib Full Member

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    Nah. He's a SS. Too slow to play RW.
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    Murder on Zidane's Floor You'd better not kill Giroud

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    Just seen this but yeah, never seen the fascination with him. Seems like a hipster/PlayStation choice of style, good highlights and a lack of actual substance.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Be interested to know who he's on par with. People made out like he's the next Ronaldo. Funny thing is, even Fifa and the like fall into the hype trap.
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    AkaAkuma Full Member

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    Serie A team of the year for 3 consecutive years. He's probably rated just about right.
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    sam147 Banned

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    Has more ability in his left foot then any of our attacking forwards. Lingard shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. Rashford is nowhere near as good. Dybala has a superb first touch whereas Lukaku trips over the ball. Martial has the ability but not consistent enough yet. Dybala is just having a bad time but the guy still has solid stats this season and he would fit into most teams in Europe. Him and Martial as a front two with Pogba in behind would be deadly. Or even in a trio he can play RW seeing as our RW cuts narrow, he can link play like Lingard and Mata do but at the same time he has quality to play as a narrow forward and he can actually dribble with the ball.
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    Andersonson New Member

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    It doesnt. Hence why he is getting benched in those games now as more people has figured out he's not developing into what people belived
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    Charles Miller Full Member

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    Yes but the way people rate players in the Caf is very strange imo. I'm pretty sure if you ask vast majority will claim United attacking players are all better than Dybala but truth is none of them is not even remotely in his level.
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    Peyroteo Professional Ronaldo PR Guy

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    I'd say Isco or James. Incredible talent but needs the right setup.
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    the_irish123 New Member

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    Its more that, with zonal marking the middle is too compact, so you need attacking full backs. Well, with attacking full backs teams needed 1 extra defensive midfielder to protect the flanks (and not lose control). Well, the solution is to play 4-3-3 then. Basically every top team plays 4-3-3 now
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    Nedved Full Member

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    Those games? He was benched in one game, for tactical reasons. His replacement Bernardeschi was also absolutely superb.

    He has been clutch in CL big games ever since joining Juve but is currently going through a drop in form, not least because Juve have to accommodate Ronaldo. Have you already forgot his performance against Tottenham last year?
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    Harry190 Full Member

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    I absolutely detest his mustache gimmick. It makes no sense.
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    MrEleson Full Member

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    You probably don't watch him every week. While he's technically gifted, his first touch can be very inconsistent..