Does anyone else think Sánchez is like (peak) Rooney?

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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Productive over the course of the season but very inconsistent within it. Equally likely to produce a sublime touch as he is to produce an unbelievably clumsy one. Creates and finishes lots of chances but breaks up the build-up play over and over again in doing so. Capable of playing in any attacking position but not at home in any. Works his balls off so he's deemed to be always "making an impact" while his deficiencies are totally overlooked by many.

    The way he was described when signed was someone we could always rely upon to make a difference, unlike someone like Hazard who only turns up when he wants. I just don't see that in Sánchez and I don't really understand why his inconsistency is overlooked.
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    SS Full Member

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    No.
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    DiseaseOfTheAge wants Amber Rudd to call him a naughty boy

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    I suggested I found them similar, during his debut, though it was the way he plays the role, rather than consistency that I found comparable.
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    Camilo Full Member

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    In a way I suppose.. But he does get involved effectively, even in his poorer matches. Not a patch on an in-form Rooney though.
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    Walters_19_MuFc Full Member

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    Peak Rooney was out of this world.
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    InLevyITrust Full Member

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    Peak Rooney is a level above Sanchez IMO.
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    settembrini Full Member

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    I wish we had signed a right winger instead of Sanchez.
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    Gbenger New Member

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    He's a good player but has had little impact on her performances so far contrary to what many like to believe. In fact, our results have gotten worse since he's been introduced to the seem.

    He was signed to take our attack up a level by playing on the right, but somehow our attack has become worse. He might be a better or more accomplished player than Martial on the left but he Martial did not deserve to be moved especially when he was playing so well. Sanchez is also very good on the right or through the middle.

    To be honest, now I'm wondering what was the point of this signing because we have not improved with him in the side or Mourinho simply has no clue on how to use him.
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    JustAFan The Adebayo Akinfenwa of football photoshoppers

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    No he is shit
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    Peak Rooney was the sort of player who would have made a difference in a team that was shit otherwise. I think Sanchez still needs quality around him.
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    Walters_19_MuFc Full Member

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    Or put Sanchez on the right.
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    Random Task Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    He was really good today leading up to Newcastle scoring with their only chance of the game - he linked up well with Lukaku and was creative around the box - after that he faded in to oblivion with the rest of his team mates.

    Didn't like the way his head dropped, I don't remember seeing that from him in an Arsenal shirt. Rooney would always raise his game when the team needed it most, nothing like Sanchez apparently.
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    Heinzesight Full Member

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    Worked hard as he has in most games for us but yet to see the real Sanchez.
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    Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Staff

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    Aggression, determination, wanting to be involved all the time and a will to win are similar traits.

    The coordination with the he team is not yet there at the moment. Hopefully, they start clicking before champions league games begin.
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    Gbenger New Member

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    Me too. Mahrez would have been a better signing because so far I haven't seen the improvement in how attack since Sanchez came in. I'm not blaming Sanchez though because he has been good but I would have Martial on the left and Mahrez on the right over this shitshow we have had since Sanchez came in.
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    United's only truly world class forward. I'm chuffed to bits we have him despite what happened today.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Yeah, peak Rooney was unreal. If Sanchez can match that we win the league.
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    Peak rooney was in top 3 players in the world. Sanchez is a workd class player but that rooney was amazing
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    Amar__ Not so Full Member

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    No, I think Pogba - Rooney comparision would be much better. Players capable of great moments, but have many flaws in their game people like to ignore. Also, both pretty much needded teams built around them(at least post 2010. Rooney), unlike Sanchez who will be pretty much the same player in every system and every position - depending mostly of his form. They are also identical defensively, can run around and take the ball in one on one situation out of any player, but positionally are always all over the place when needed to defend the space and cover for other players.
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    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    What does this have to do with Rooney? he's a forward, his positioning means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Mind you, he's one of the hardest working forwards i've ever seen, second probably to Tevez. Pogba on the other-hand is just lazy.
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    I agree with the OP, Sanchez is a bit more skillful though, also works really hard for an attacker, he takes risks in his game that end up in lots of match winning contributions and is a very high risk player.
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    People have to remember we haven't seen the best of Sanchez this season as he basically went AWOL for the first half of the season at Arsenal, expecting him to just switch it on just cause he got a move was/is naive.
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    Dunno about Rooney.

    He really didnt give the ball away like that, he kept it well even when he was returning from injury and playing poorly. Nani did give the ball away though, in between trying to make great passes and crosses.

    Sanchez currently gets tackled twice as much and loses the ball with a loose touch twice as much as any of our other players. So far thats the most in the league of both, ahead of Wilfred Zaha. In his matches so far he also averages the most dribbles in the league so thats the other side of it.

    Trying too hard and having too little support from teammates in attack
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    noodlehair "It's like..."

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    Doesn't remind me of Rooney really.

    Even peak Rooney was often unfit looking and would have entire games, or runs of games even, where he couldn't do a thing right. When he did get it right he could win games on his oown which I don't think Sanchez can do, at least not in the way Rooney did, by just dominating them.

    Sanchez does things that come off in every game and is a different type of player than Rooney completely.

    He just seems too eager to play killer pass or ball every time and is trying too hard to force things. He did it a lot at Arsenal too...but it generally happens when things aren't going the team's way and he feels like he has to try and force it.

    He reminds me of Tevez more I think. Works like a maniac during a game but is just guilty of trying too hard. Except Tevez was appparently a lazy git away from the pitch, while I'd be tempted to bet Sanchez is the hardest working player we have away from the pitch.

    There's lots of noise on here but if you take him and Lukaku out of the equation, today''s game goes from a poor performance where we probably should and most of the time would have won anyway, to an atrocious performance with literally no redeeming factors at all.

    He is making a difference already but it is still down to other players to start pulling their weight.
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    Jim Beam Full Member

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    Not really. Peak Rooney was even more aggressive than Sanchez imo. And one hell of a player, even better than him.

    In terms of inconsistency, Sanchez has off moments and some sloppy passes during 90 minutes. Rooney problem was more that he sometimes (not so often during his peak) had an off game for the whole 90 minutes.
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    Lord SInister Full Member

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    I have not really commented much about Sanchez given the happiness caf has about his signing. He is a top player given the circumstances, but I am not feeling that he is the RVP that we all are looking for. He is great no doubt, and someone who we do need given his hunger and commitment on the field, but he is not the star that we think he is, still an invaluable cog, but not the man I hope I am wrong, and he becomes our turnaround guy.

    As far as the comparison goes, Sanchez for all his bad plays, I have not seen him being as bad as Rooney used to be when he was bad. But than again I have never seen Sanchez being as good as Rooney was at his best. Rooney was extreme, he could land a 60yard ball perfectly but also have the ability to control a pass like a hot potato. Weird player, who despite all his achievements IMHO never reached his full potential.
    Style wise, Rooney was quite different IMO, yes they have the traits of hard working modern forward, but still there was vast difference.
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    Peak Rooney was the best English player I've seen for a long time.
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    Peak Rooney may be fat but his immense size meant he can shrug off most defenders. Peak Rooney was also lethal in and just outside the box. He can shoot or head from any position.

    Peak Rooney was also pretty fast and his passes and crosses were accurate. I personally think Rooney is a better player than Alan shearer.

    Sanchez sorry cannot be compared at this moment.
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    He probably reminds me more of 2011-2012 Suarez before he really took off and became one of the all time great strikers
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    Peak Rooney by far and Sanchez is only going to deteriorate from here on in (albeit slowly).

    Sanchez is a great little player but the reaction on here when he’s 33, a squad player and still on half a million a week (or whatever it is) will be somewhat interesting.
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    Marcky411 Full Member

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    Can't compared the 2 Peak Rooney was better than Sanchez now but then again peak Rooney was 23 years old Sanchez is 30. My big concern is the style we are playing or lack of, I ask myself how long will it take before Sanchez becomes the new Mihki and end up being a squad player at best.
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    Maybe I'm wrong but Sanchez might be like Rooney circa 2013/14. Under Moyes Rooney had his best PL season in terms of goals/assist per minutes, that is, a goal/assist every 90 min. He was already declining though. The stats were papering over the cracks and misled the club to offer him "that" contract.

    Sanchez's stats last season were fantastic. He contributed a goal/assist in the PL every 93 min. But it is obvious that he's lost a yard of pace and doesn't impress me against good defenders. Huddersfield and Newcastle do not have good defenders. Remember what Sane did to them 3 weeks ago.

    I'm probably wrong though because both Jose and Guardiola wanted him and they know much better than me. Still, City missed on him in August and lost only 2 pts in the league in the first half of the season. It was a blessing in disguise for them as Sterling and Sane managed to develop furhter as players.
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    Tried to get people to keep expectations realistic to avoid the inevitable realisation that he's very human.

    He isn't going to make 40 yard runs and round the keeper. We still need a system to maximise his output. Even if he was capable it's hard to have RVP/Suarez level impact as a wide player in a disjointed team
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    He barely turned 29! Stop saying he is 30 people....!!!
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    Sanchez has never finished top 5 in the ballon d'or, Rooney has, both world class but rooney at the middle-upper tier of world class, sanchez is lower-middle tier world class.
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    Alexis Sanchez is nowhere near as great as peak Rooney was.
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    Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04

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    We could play him on the right though... he performed there before
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    DdeGoat Banned

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    I actually agree that he is a mercurial talent like (peak) Rooney. Hard work, determination, goals, inconsistency, ability to create but not really creative. That is why I think to get best out of him, he should be played in the same position as Rooney; i.e. through the middle. It will help out out our usually exposed midfield, will help us play Martial on the left and play another creative player, Mata, on the right & ease the goal scoring burden on Lukaku.
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    Red_toad Full Member

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    Played on the right pretty much all the time at Barca. Was very very good there.
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    Anything negative about Sanchez is our fault. It´s not him, it´s the club, system and players around him. It´s so obvious and it happened before. I mean it´s not like anything is new. He played (for Arsenal) against the same teams, on the same pitches, against the same opponents, managers goalkeepers numerous times before, and i he was awesome. And then he strips on our jersey and becomes shit overnight? No way. Same happened to Memphis, to ADM. We need to focus getting the maximum out of those special players by giving them the exact conditions (formation, position) they need. You can´t add Alexis to an unorganized bunch of superstars/egos and expect him to be the savior. Mourinhos order is to get him to Arsenal level or above, anything else should be considered as failure.