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Does sending players out on loan work for us?

Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by padzilla, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. Feb 11, 2018

    padzilla Hipster

    Oct 31, 2005
    I am trying to think of the players we loaned out to other clubs before they returned here and can't think of too many players we wouldn't have better off selling in the first place?
    Obviously David Beckham at Preston is an exception as it wasn't quite the production line of loanees back then that it is now.
    We loaned Jonny Evans and Pique out but got rid of Pique permanently because the club felt Evans was the future - then sold him to West Brom.
  2. Feb 11, 2018

    JJ12 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

    Mar 30, 2016
    Worked well for Lingard I'd say
  3. Feb 11, 2018

    Nick7 Full Member

    Jan 24, 2011
    Worked for Beckham.
  4. Feb 11, 2018

    Mr. MUJAC Talent spotter

    Sep 19, 2005
    Walter Crickmer started it all...
    It’s always going to be tough.

    Changes in management, playing a different formation with potentially poorer players so it’s hardly surprising that so many have struggled.

    Beckham only had four games at Preston so I wouldn’t even say that had too much of a bearing overall.

    For United, I think Evans, Welbeck, Cleverley, Pique, Lingard, O’Shea all came back better players.

    Others like Higginbotham, Michael Keane, Campbell, Shawcross and one or two others had good loans and it helped their careers.

    Unfortunately for dozens of others it had a minimal impact or was a complete waste of time.
  5. Feb 11, 2018

    Josep Dowling Full Member

    Aug 17, 2014
    Pique was sold cheap because he wanted to move back to Barcelona. It had nothing to do with United thinking Evans was better than Pique.
  6. Feb 11, 2018

    Raoul Admin Staff

    Aug 14, 1999
    It works for both us and the loaned player, even if said player doesn't return to consistently play here.
  7. Feb 12, 2018

    Angelinho Full Member

    Oct 3, 2013
    It's very difficult for young players to come through. Just because a player who has been out on loan doesn't go on to nail down a regular position, doesn't mean the loan or the loaning system is a failure
    Why rush to sell? The club get additional time to assess the player, and even if the player is unlikely to make the grade at United, a successful loan spell can significantly increase the transfer fee and help fund other transfers.

  8. Feb 12, 2018

    Un4givableB Full Member

    Aug 30, 2013
    What else can we or any club do ? The chances of any youth player becoming a first team regular for us are small.Loaning out players gives them the chance to prove themselves and the the club's youth system.
    It doesn't almost matter if they go on to play for us,as long as we are producing players good enough to make a career in the premiership is a vindication of our youth system.
  9. Feb 12, 2018

    NFM New Member

    Nov 25, 2015
    Beckham was the exception. He didn't act a 'big time Charlie' at Preston, and the players there appreciated him. It just gave him a boost at the right time. Lingard needed a lot of time to develop physically, so use of loans was necessary. Its difficult to think of anyone else that it 'worked' to get them in a position to return and go straight into the first team.
    Normally if you are good enough you will get played whatever age you are. Rashford is just the latest example. It not 'harder' than it was before, thats just an excuse because the players aren't good enough. Given the referee protection and better pitches, it should be far easier for young players to get games , but not if they are not up to it. Giggs would have played at 17 now, so would Best, Charlton etc.
    Managers like young players to fight for a place, by training well and taking their chances when offered. A reason Periera will not play for United, twice he has refused to fight for his place, his excuse to go elsewhere to play is just that, an excuse.
    If Gomes is good enough , for instance, he will get a chance or two in the next 12 months. If he takes them he will be in the team squad at 18, if not he will be loaned and eventually sold. Ditto, Chong, O'Connor.
  10. Feb 12, 2018

    Green_Red Full Member

    May 29, 2013
    Loan is another word for shop window 70% of time.