'Donkey' footballers who were actually not donkeys at all?

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    Fortitude TV/Monitor Expert Scout

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    It's a label used to describe clumsy, unskilful or plain oafish footballers, but sometimes it's wrongly put forward but the label sticks for player's entire career.

    I always thought Tony Adams had far more class to his game than given credit for as an example. Peter Crouch was a lot better with his feet than a lot wanted to give him credit for, and there is a growing propensity for oppo fans to call Lukaku a donkey, too.

    Who has, in your opinion, been wrongly labelled as a donkey?
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    Vidyoyo Self-confessed coffee shop chat-up expert

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    Thomas Muler springs to mind
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Phil Jones. He has pace and he is good on the ball. He is not limited at all as a CB. He is a true modern CB even though he is often not credited as such.
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    The only one that sprung to my mind you've already mentioned. Crouch. Has a lovely touch on him for someone 9 foot tall and scored some beauties as well.
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    FujiVice Full Member

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    Tony Adams was one of the best defenders this country ever produced. Fergie told him he was a Man United player without a United shirt on. If Ferguson could have got his hands on him he'd have been a United legend.
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    Lukaku

    Before we signed him the Caf seemed to think he was
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Similar shout to the other one I had on this thread but, John Terry. Not only was his passing ability underrated he was one of the elite passers at the CB position and his reading of the game was top notch. The idea that Carvalho carried him is one of the dumbest myths around.
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    NYAS Full Member

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    Lukaku was a donkey and Matic was a big lump according to some laughably reputable posters on here during the summer. Despite Matic clearly being one of the most technically-proficient DMs on the planet.
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    haram Full Member

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    Giroud was called a donkey even by Arsenal fans.
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    Fellaini. He's not magician with the ball at his feet but he's tidy and rarely loses possession. His first touch is underrated.
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    Hojoon Full Member

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    Most of the time I watched Benteke his touch is good, the problem is he can't run.
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    These three are all unfairly labeled as donkeys simply because they run/ran a lot and do most of the dirty work.

    Gattuso was no Pirlo in terms of technical ability, but he was still a tidy passer of the ball and rarely lost possession.
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    A few times in each game - he looks like one. And then he pulls off a skill like he did when he killed the ball with one foot, and shot with the other...and you sit there thinking: what the hell just happened there :)
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    His chest control is world class. I agree, he rarely loses possession for a guy who's supposed to be a donkey.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    Andy Carrol...oh wait.
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    Emile Heskey. Very good link up player and a very intelligent player who just happened to be pretty impotent in front of goal.
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself Staff

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    Lukaku was routinely called a donkey here. One of our "intelligent" scouser fan called him Heskey even though he's nothing like him at all.
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    Heskey was the very definition of a donkey. He was good as a big man holding the ball up, which is why the technically inept England coaches loved him, but he was rubbish at everything else.
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    He really is a donkey. BludFam says so.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    Tony Adams is the obvious one because 'the donkey' became his widely used nickname.
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    After quitting the booze and under Wenger, he genuinely became a comfortable-on-the-ball centre back. Was actually a pleasure to behold. Kids! Alcohol causes anxiety, and that can even translate onto a football pitch.
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    a_devil_inside Big footed hermaphrodite

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    Lukaku has similarities to a donkey if his song is to be believed.
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    That's mental, really. I can't think of any big centre forward who's been involved in so many beautiful, delicate goals over recent years.
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    squiggle Full Member

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    Definitely. Giroud was the first to come to mind. Just because he's tall and not very fast as a runner, people ignore the speed and creativity of his passing.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Yeah nah, Fellaini and Jones are donkeys like. And Heskey. Just mentioning their good attributes doesn't make it less so
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    Viduka?
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    John Terry was actually quite good on the ball despite being thought of as a no-nonsense defender.
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    Beckham positioning and tactical awareness is underrated. People often think he's a donkey with a superb cross
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    To be honest I was being sarcastic with my post. When Fellaini is being called an artisan, then you know that every player who has been labelled a 'donkey' must surely be undeserving of that nickname.

    FWIW I do think Heskey had more class to his game than a Fellaini albeit playing in different positions.

    Terry is a top class CB and one of the best of his generation, no way should he be called a donkey, he was quality on the ball.
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    WackyWengerWorld Banned

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    His first touch and technique are very good BUT he is a donkey pace wise and in terms of agility he almost falls over himself when turning. Donkey label is therefore justified.
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    He's a donkey in terms of pace and movement. But people call him a lamppost more than a donkey though.
    Just smash the ball straight at him and it'll get bounced off him delicately on to the path of an on running player. Well sometimes
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    Gattuso was pretty donkey-ish to be honest. Matuidi is not elegant but can play football. Kante's bad omen is just a prejudice. What about Fellaini? Juve employs Sturaro in that bracket these days.
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    Steady on. He was neat and tidy. He couldn't pass between the lines with any regularity or accuracy.

    JT could do some things exceptionally well. His biggest talent was to never play beyond his abilities.

    Carvalho was a far better footballer and undoubtedly JT never looked as good as he did alongside him. But the same came be said about Carvalho too.

    I don't think anyone every branded Terry a donkey though. He always got a little too much credit from Chelsea fans, and a little too little from opposition fans.

    Plus, he's a pretty dim witted Garbage person. That colours a lot.
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    Scarecrow Having a week off

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    Jones isn't. He is one of the better CBs on the ball in the league. Smalling and Fellaini are donkeys, unless the ball is at chest height in the latter's case. Then he turns into Berbatov for a second.
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    I think Henderson is a good modern day example, better than a lot give him credit for.
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    Giroud comes to mind. He's scored some wonderful goals and has pretty good technique.

    He's very much underrated.