Eder Militao

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    Ekeke Full Member

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    More than 10 years ago. He signed for chelsea in 2004. 14-15 years ago :eek: Doesnt say anything about the state of portuguese defenses today
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    What's a sure thing? Sanchez maybe? For me I'd have the club sign an even younger defender, as the talent is obvious. How any player adapts to a new club is always a tad unknown and a risk.
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    It was a long time ago, but they're due another great defender from that League..
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    Brazilian tends to fail at United. I understand your concern.

    But we need a proper Brazilian in United! It's about time now!
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    Telles is "just" the most influential player of Porto squad, IMHO. Sometimes he get caught in the back, which is kinda natural for such an attacking force that he drives, but he is a full package: in this guy you can have an amazing crosser and a terrific playmaker, because his vision is tremendous and he has great eye for key passes.

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    broccoli Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Militão is not the classic physical center back. He plays with anticipation and good reading of the game. Always takes the right decision and then also has the acceleration and agility to solve difficult situations.

    A classy CB more in the Varane mould than a Koulibaly or other more physically imposing cbs. Only 20 but already international for Brazil and can play well as RB and in midfield.
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    Rocknrolla69er New Member

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    So pretty much the ideal foil for a Skrinijar or Koulibaly.
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    Does look like a classier version of Bailly who looks like he can header, and looks like he can play from the Left hand side of defence, however everything I’ve read with the United name attached to it is 40 mil and for the RB position which would seem somewhat weird since we bought Dalot and it looks like that is where we want him to develop, so I just can’t see why we’d buy another 20 yr old for RB so if we are interested surely it’s for LCB.
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    the_irish123 New Member

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    Is it the nation's fault, or is it United just scouting badly?

    We could have had Ronaldinho, but we prefer to sign these vassalic work horse players with like Kleberson and Fred. I think Anderson was the only classical brazilian we signed but we changed him to defensive midfielder like Mikel.
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    Militão one step closer to leaving
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    I'm not sure that signing makes much difference, isn't Pepe like 50?
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    A 50 year old Pepe will still be the best CB in the Portuguese League..
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    Thought Pepe was off to Monaco
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    Brutal. :lol:
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    But I think Militao could give him a run for his money..:D
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

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    Miss watching Pepe. His battles with Costa were a thing of beauty.
    Remember when Mourinho out him in midfield. Mourinho is such a shithouse. :lol:
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

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    Why does this make Militao's exit more likely? Felipe could be going to the bench.
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    Because Felipe is way too good to be on the bench.

    Pepe might be 36 but he's still pretty much the same player that was starting for Real Madrid btw.
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    Sounds pretty good. Do you think he'd have what it takes to make the big step up to World class? / make it at a club like Manchester United?
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    Foil for players who don't even play for us?
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    broccoli Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Ye but should do a season more or two before that. Haven't been properly tested yet
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    I know where you're coming from. Zanka Jørgensen from Huddersfield, was also touted as a great intelligent talent in Denmark and after some adaptation he's starting to look the part at Huddersfield.

    A similar path is probably the best with these talented players, but then again they're hyped so much, that they'll end in bigger clubs where they can't live up to the expectations completely from the start and will probably start on the bench, where they don't get the needed consistent game-time. Lindelöf's a good example of that too.
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    I'm off the buy off one season hype boat now. Well, in this case it was 6 months. At that point might as well sign them directly from the brazilian league, why give Porto/Benfica the massive markup.
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    sideshow_bob New Member

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    Why? Because our scouting in South America is absolute pants.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Strangely enough with the Work Permit rules you can basically only sign South American players when they are expensive.
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    That was a thing of beauty - Pepe anchoring the midfield, alongside hack machines Khedira and Alonso, wasn't it? :lol:

    Purely picked to disrupt Barca and hit them on the counter with 3 of AdM/Ronaldo/Benzema/Ozil.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

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    I enjoyed it. Such a cynical way of setting up a team. Funny thing is the tactic barely worked.
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    Aye, it was "different" alright. Sort of played right into his philosophy of not wanting the ball though etc. - but it was a "good" contrast to the tiki taka way. I guess we have to try and appreciate all aspects of football...personal preference aside.
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    Where is it different?
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    Duncan Castles said on his podcast yesterday that United, Real and Chelsea all hold interest in the player. Militao was apparently recommended to United by Mourinho, as a budget alternative to Koulibaly (he apparently has a €50m release clause).
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    Rocknrolla69er New Member

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    Well I’m not going to list Jones , Rojo, Smalling who are shite am I

    My point is he’s a good foil for our main targets.

    Anything else?
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    Eder Militao to Manchester United? How good is the young Porto star?
    Porto youngster is reportedly on Manchester United's January radar
    By Ben McAleer, WhoScored.com
    Last Updated: 09/01/19 9:20am​

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    Brazilian youngster Eder Militao is attracting Premier League attention
    With the help of WhoScored.com, we get the lowdown on what Brazilian defender Eder Militao could bring to Manchester United.

    It was a ninth successive league win comprehensively achieved. While their title rivals have slipped up in recent weeks, Porto have made no mistake in their quest to secure a second Primeira Liga trophy in as many seasons. Now six points clear at the summit, Porto haven't lost a league match since a 1-0 loss at domestic rivals Benfica at the beginning of October. The defeat was the shot in the arm required to get back to their best and sweep aside all before them.


    The 3-1 win over Nacional on Monday night further reinforced their credentials as title favourites and it would take a monumental downturn in form for Porto not to be crowned champions later this year. However, being the dominant side in Portugal is a bit different to achieving that in La Liga, Serie A or the Premier League and as commanding as Porto may be, any success will see a host of teams show an interest in their best players.


    Moussa Marega and Yacine Brahimi were both heavily linked with a move to West Ham last summer, while Chelsea were believed to have had a £20m bid for key creator and starting left-back Alex Telles rejected 12 months ago. It's an ongoing cycle that is unlikely to slow anytime soon, and the latest to be linked with a big money switch to one of Europe's big leagues is centre-back Eder Militao.

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    Check out the WhoScored.com stats for Porto defender Eder Militao
    A summer acquisition from Brazilian outfit Sao Paulo, the 20-year-old has adjusted seamlessly to Portuguese football. Used predominantly at right-back in the opening months of the campaign in Brazil, head coach Sergio Conceicao elected to start Militao at centre-back and Porto are all the better for it. Indeed, the youngster's WhoScored.com rating (7.46) is the best of all centre-backs in Portugal's top tier.

    As an Ivan Marcano replacement at the heart of the Porto backline, Militao has exceeded expectations at the Estadio do Dragao and his performances haven't gone unnoticed with both United and Liverpool reportedly interested in the Brazil international. Signed for a paltry €4m (£3.6m), Porto will make a huge profit on the defender as and when they decide to sell. Considering he is believed to have a £42.5m release clause in his contract, buying low and selling high seems to remain a staple for the Portuguese powerhouse.

    His aggressive style of defending has won him a legion of admirers in Portugal and seen him likened to the experienced Pepe. In 13 league outings this season, Militao has been dribbled past just once, making 18 of 19 attempted tackles to reinforce a statistically calculated WhoScored.com strength of 'tackling'. The approach he adopts, though, lands him in hot water with Militao committing more fouls (21) than he has made tackles (18) in the league this season, but at his age, it's a trait that can be ironed out over time.

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    Is Eder Militao set for a transfer to the Premier League some time soon?
    The Brazilian's speed across the ground has proven crucial for a Porto side that has conceded just five goals in his 13 league starts, with Militao able to recover impressively when opponents do break the lines, while his reading of the game means he is able to realise the danger before it's too late.

    Aerially, too, he impresses, even though he stands at 6ft 1in. An aerial success rate of 67.2 per cent is notable given his height, but this is a shortcoming - no pun intended - that may be exploited in a more direct league. He works well with the tools he is handed, no less, yet it would be wiser to partner him with a centre-back that dominates in the air that would then allow Militao to maximise the stronger aspects of his game.

    This comes in his ability to bring the ball out from the back, though even here there is room for improvement. Porto have the second best possession return in Portugal this season, with 56.4 per cent, yet an 83.4 per cent pass success rate, while the fourth best of all players for the team, needs to be worked upon if he is to fully realise his immense potential. But at 20-years-old, time is on his side and the right coaching with the right defensive partner would help Militao take his game to the next level.

    Porto are understandably scurrying to hand him a new deal that would increase the £42.5m release clause in his contract, but from a financial perspective, they can't compete with the likes of United and Liverpool and this weighs against them. A word of caution, too, for English teams looking to spend big on Militao. Manchester City did so to sign Eliaquim Mangala back in 2014 and the Frenchman struggled to adjust to the Premier League.

    That being said, City courted Militao before his Porto switch last summer, perhaps with a view to playing him at right-back. His versatility - Militao is also able to operate in midfield - is an added bonus for interested parties.

    Militao would perhaps be better served continuing his education with Porto as he attains regular game time both domestically and on the continent, but when one of football's elite sides comes calling, it's difficult to turn them down. Militao, though, has shown more than enough to suggest he'd improve a number of Premier League sides and whether he moves this month or in the summer, he will be a welcome addition for any team.


    https://www.skysports.com/football/...ester-united-how-good-is-the-young-porto-star

    Again I want to see how he does against good teams. But at least this article has good reasoning, just the Portuguese league isnt a very good standard to know how good a CB is.
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    After reading that article I think he's Bailly 2.0
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    Sounds like a good replacement at least
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    Or just keep Bailly who's probably better right now anyway?
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    golden_blunder Site admin. Manchester United fan Staff

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    It’s not that, UK work permit rules would stop us buying many young players directly from Brazil etc. Portugal doesn’t have those issues. Hence we buy them from Portugal when they’ve had more international caps
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    So the articles say one of his strengths is tackling, yet he averages 1.4 a game which ranks him 86th in the league but highest rated defender in Liga NOS. Is this down to Porto having to rarely defend in a game or just the level of defenders being very poor and he's best of a bad bunch?
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    Redcafe logic at its finest, up there with the poster a few back who doesnt want another Brazilian!
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    Ramshock CAF Pilib De Brún Translator

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    Them being one of the big 3 sides in Portugal what would you conclude?
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    Well that says the standard of the league, averaging 1.4 tackles a game is very low and shows he's not being tested enough, so we'd primarily be looking at his ball playing skills?
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