England World Cup XI...

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    Rozay Not good at posting fixture lists

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    Saw a conversation on this on Sky Sports. If the tournament started next week, what XI would you go with?

    Mine:

    I think 4-3-3 would be best, so:

    Butland

    Walker
    Maguire
    Stones
    Young

    Dier
    Wilshere
    Winks

    Sterling
    Kanye
    Martial obviously not really, I mean Rashford


    They may go 3-5-2, so:

    Butland

    Walker

    Stones
    Smalling
    Maguire

    Young

    Dier
    Wilshere

    Jessi
    Sterling

    Kane
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    Schmiznurf Full Member

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    Not only is Kanye not a footballer but he's not even eligible for England.
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    Rozay Not good at posting fixture lists

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    Aren’t you a clever one.
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    Brinky Full Member

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    You missed Martial :lol:
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    Schmiznurf Full Member

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    Well, he does deserve to start every game.
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    Jordan McKenzie New Member

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    I feel like our midfield isn't strong enough for a 4-3-3. Just about every team in the top 10 has a better midfield than us.

    Therefore I'd go with a 3-5-2: (Edit: 3-4-3 or 5-2-3)

    Butland

    Walker Stones Jones Maguire Shaw
    Wilshere Dier
    Jesse Kane Sterling
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    broccoli Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Can't see England passing group stage with Jess and Sterling as creative outlets. Wilshire and Dier aren't very inspiring either. Hope there's more in the locker for England otherwise it will be like previous competitions.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    @Rozay love for Martial is too strong:D
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    Jordan McKenzie New Member

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    He's been sensational this year. Jesse hitting good form at the right time too.
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    BarcaSpurs Full Member

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    How is that a 352?

    Butland
    Stones Jones Maguire? (No idea if hes any good tbh)
    Walker Wilshere Dier Ali Rose
    Kane Rashford

    Maybe drop Rashford for Sterling if his form doesnt improve. Bit harsh on Lingard but not sure where he fits. Would want someone quick to partner Kane that can drift wide or make runs in behind. Not sure if Lingard is the right fit for that.
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    Martial.

    Keeping Rashford out of the team both at club and international level.
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    Rozay Not good at posting fixture lists

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    Well there isn’t really. Alli, Lallana, Rashford perhaps is as good as the rest get, otherwise you start scraping the barrel with the likes of Albrighton!

    English players don’t really start regularly in forward positions in the PL.
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    Rozay Not good at posting fixture lists

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    :D
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    NinjaFletch Full Member

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    If it started tomorrow:

    Pickford/Butland
    Walker
    Stones
    Jones
    Any one of Shaw/Young/Rose
    Dier
    Wilshere
    Sterling
    Lingard
    Rashford
    Kane

    Reckon there's a chance Lallana and Alli, could push themselves in by the time the tournament starts, but I wouldn't select either right now.
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    PeteManic Full Member

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    Can someone explain to me the Wilshere obsession?!!?

    It'll be 3 at the back. Young won't play. Wilshere shouldn't play. Alli will do nothing. Sterling will be booed. Kane won't score but it's not his fault cos he isn't getting the service.

    Out in 2nd round.
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    K2K Full Member

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    Wonder how far England will go?

    Last 16 would be a good achievement imo.
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    paulscholes18 Full Member

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    Butland
    Jones Stones Maguire
    Walker Dier Winks Young
    Alli
    Kane Rashford

    Or
    Butland
    Walker Stones Jones Rose
    Dier Winks
    Sterling Alli Rashford
    Kane
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    Our Cm options are Wilshere, Dier, Henderson, Winks and Drinkwater

    Id have Wilshere if i have to pick 2 of those
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    NinjaFletch Full Member

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    Everyone else being absolutely dog shit. If it's him Henderson or Drinkwater then it's going to be him.
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    broccoli Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    He works in a very specific system. Pace, agility but not much else. I would be very surprised if he achieved similar levels for the national team.

    Just looking at some top teams' main creative outlets:

    Arg: Messi, Dybala, Di Maria
    Spain: Isco, Iniesta, David Silva
    Germany: Ozil, Sane, Muller
    France: Mbappe, Martial, Griezmann
    Brazil: Neymar, Firmino, Coutinho
    Belgium: Hazard, Mertens, De Bruyne

    England: Lingard, Sterling, ????
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Fit Wilshere is England's best CM.
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    Raees Boing Boing Baggies

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    It is going to be 3-5-2.. so we might as well brace ourselves for that.

    Butland
    Walker J. Gomez Stones Maguire Shaw
    Winks Wilshere
    Sterling D. Alli
    Kane
    On paper it doesn't look the sexiest of english line ups, but perhaps that is a good thing.. very little established players in that side but quite fluid in nature with some decent possession players.
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    Rozay Not good at posting fixture lists

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    I also don’t expect Sterling to produce much, nor do I think he’s a top player, but there would be little justification of not picking him at the moment.
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    PeteManic Full Member

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    I'm not English so my Wilshere question is genuine. Sure it would be Dier and Alli?
    That's a fair point. Didn't realise England had a lack of CMs.

    Would it not be Dier and Alli? And then Sterling Kane and Lingard/Rashford as front 3?
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    If this team doesn't get out of a group with Tunisia and Panama you might aswell give up on football.

    They should be making the quarters given the draw they got.
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    Zlatattack Full Member

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    Butland
    Walker Stones Jones* LB *why should we suffer alone
    . Alli Dier Wilshire
    . Lingard Kane Sterling

    Don't get your hopes up.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    Something like this.
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    sincher "I will cry if Rooney leaves"

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    Euch.

    I would probably go with something like this in a 4-3-3:

    Butland

    Walker
    Stones
    Jones
    Rose

    Dier
    Alli
    Oxlade-Chamberlain

    Sterling
    Lingard
    Kane

    Winks or Wilshere for Ox if you need to tighten up a bit. Rashford on for Jesse if he does a disappearing act.
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    Macca7 New Member

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    It's pretty simple, when fit he's by far our best midfielder. The only player who can match the top nations midfielders on a technical level, and as BarcaSpurs said, the other options are dog shit.
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    Rozay Not good at posting fixture lists

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    Alli doesn’t play as a centre midfielder anymore.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    --------------Butland--------------
    Walker---Stones----Cahill----Rose
    ----------Dier------Hernderson----------
    Sterling--------Alli--------Rashford
    --------------Kane--------------
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    .......................................Butland....................................
    Walker............Jones...........................Stones..............Rose
    .......................................Dier.........................................
    ................... Ali.................................Ox.........................
    Stirling............................Kane.............................Rashford

    Squad (still 23 for a WC I think)
    GK. Pickford & Hart
    CB. Cahill Gomez (as he can cover both FB positions and central plus Dier can also play here)
    FB. Tripier & Delph (delph can also cover in midfield)
    MF. Winks & Henderson (meh I know but he is probably gonna go)
    AM Lingaard, Lallana (presuming he starts getting games for liverpool)
    FW. Vardy & Sturridge (presuming he starts scoring at west brom)

    Wilshire and Barkley are both probably only a run of a few good games from a place as they both clearly have talent but playing time and consistency are their big issues
    Walcott could also force his way in if he does well at everton as his raw pace is always a threat
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    I'm not sure 3 CBs + Dier in midfield would work and it wouldn't make much sense to play like that in the first 2 games where England will be massive favourites.

    [​IMG]

    Win the first 2 games and then use the Belgium game to adjust playing against a tougher opponent, keep the team solid defensively and hope Kane and the speed of Sterling, Rashford and Lingard can hurt teams on the counter. The midfield really isn't good enough to dominate teams so you'll have to make the games boring and be comfortable defending without the ball.

    I can't really blame you for it but I think people are way too pessimistic given the draw they got. English youth teams are getting better and a QF appearance would be important for the future.
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    Macca7 New Member

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    This would be my team as things stand, a lot can change between now and the end of the season.

    Butland

    Walker---Stones---Smalling--- Rose/Shaw ( Depending on who's fit/in form at end of season)

    Dier---Wilshere

    Sterling----Lingard----Rashford

    Kane
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    Gio 4 times Redcafe Draft Winner

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    Two problems which will compound each other. First, the shitshow at centre midfield. Mitigated to some extent by Wilshere's return to form and fitness. Second, the lack of creativity and gel in the attack. All the best options that are likely centred around Sterling and Ali have thrived getting on the end of service from the likes of Eriksen, De Bruyne or Silva. I'm not sure who can bring that together into a cohesive unit, but it could be a decent counter-attacking set-up. But that isn't how that defence should be set up, they should be able to play a lot higher and dictate from the back. Fair play to Southgate if he can sort that out.
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    Jordan McKenzie New Member

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    True, as a team we have deficiencies all over the pitch.

    However, I feel like in a good system, our front 3 could tear apart some of the best teams.

    If Rashford, Kane, Sterling, Alli, Lingard etc have any sort of form going into the summer, then we need a counter attacking system that gets the ball to them as quick as possible.

    Could be very dangerous.
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    KTP_ZA New Member

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    If the tournament started next week I would probably go with

    Butland

    Walker=Jones-Stones-Shaw
    Dier-Wilshere
    Sterling-Lingard-Rashford
    Kane

    However I think that Vardy, Henderson, Hart & Alli will probably end up in the team
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    Minkaro Full Member

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    Not Hart
    Stones Jones Maguire
    Walker Dier ??? Shaw
    Alli
    Sterling Kane
    Similar to how Spurs have played at times this season. I don't think England's wingers are any good (as wingers), so a more narrow formation with wingbacks made sense to me. Not sure who should partner Dier, and I'd be tempted to have Lingard over Alli.
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    sincher "I will cry if Rooney leaves"

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    Yeah that's not too bad. I suppose ??? will be Henderson, as deeply unexciting as it is.