ESPN's Top 100 players and managers.

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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Ram1fy New Member

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    Pogba, Rashford, De Gea, Lukaku and Tony V on there. Probably fair since they did it by positions. Seems to be based on popular opinion more than anything tbf
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    Igor Drefljak Definitely Russian

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    Victor Moses. 10th best RB in the world, booom
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    Raoul Admin

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    Should be called the Cliche Top 100. I'm guessing the likes of Craig Burley and Shaka Hislop made the list.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin)

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    Mkhitaryan too. I know he's been missing last few weeks but he's still our player.
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    Ram1fy New Member

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    True. Lol.
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    Peyroteo ahahahahah feck off dad!

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    Yeah that's not a good list. Seems to be based on popular opinion rather than by what actually happens on the pitch. Donnarumma the 9th best keeper in the world, Ter Stegen just 8th, Fabinho the 6th best right back, Zidane the best manager, Griezmann and Dybala as strikers, Higuain and Icardi nowhere to be seen while Cavani is just 10th, Eriksen as the 7th best attacking midfielder behind Alli (:lol:) and Iniesta, etc.
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    Rhyme Animal Modmins said "freeze" and I got numb

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    Conte, Zidane and Simeone above José as manager...?

    feck off.
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    Raoul Admin

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    Rashford = 10th best forward in the world. Maybe he should start for his actual club every now and then.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin)

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    He does have more minutes than the 5th best wide forward and 6th best forward because they're always bloody injured
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin)

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    Our players in:

    Striker: Lukaku (7th - 1: Lewandowski, 2: Suarez, 3: Aguero, 4: Kane, 5: Griezmann, 6: Dybala, 8: Aubameyang, 9: Benzema, 10: Cavani)
    Forward: Rashford (10th - 1: Messi, 2: Ronaldo, 3: Neymar, 4: Hazard, 5: Mbappe, 6: Bale, 7: Robben, 8: Jesus, 9: Müller)
    Wide Forward: N/A (1: Sanchez, 2: Mane, 3: Mertens, 4: O Dembele, 5: Reus, 6: Sane, 7: Salah, 8: Willian, 9: Di Maria, 10: Ribery)
    Attacking Midfield: Mkhitaryan (9th - 1: De Bruyne, 2: Isco, 3: D Silva, 4: Iniesta, 5: Coutinho, 6: Alli, 7: Eriksen, 8: Asensio, 10: Koke)
    Central Midfield: Pogba (4th - 1: Modric, 2: Kroos, 3: Kante, 5: Hamsik, 6: Busquets, 7: Vidal, 8: Casemiro, 9: Thiago, 10: Rakitic)
    Left Back: N/A (1: Marcelo, 2: Alaba, 3: Alba, 4: Sandro, 5: Azpilicueta, 6: Mendy, 7: Luis, 8: Rose, 9: Rodriguez, 10: Guerrero)
    Center Back: N/A (1: Ramos, 2: Bonucci, 3: Chiellini, 4: Godin, 5: Hummels, 6: Pique, 7: Boateng, 8: Alderweireld, 9: T Silva, 10: Varane)
    Right Back: Valencia (4th - 1: Carvajal, 2: Alves, 3: Walker, 5: Juanfran, 6: Fabinho, 7: Bellerin, 8: Aurier, 9: Semedo, 10: Moses)
    Goalkeeper: De Gea (2nd - 1: Neuer, 3: Buffon, 4: Courtois, 5: Oblak, 6: Lloris, 7: Navas, 8: Ter-Stegen, 9: Donnarumma, 10: Cech)

    Manager: Mourinho (5th - 1: Zidane, 2: Conte, 3: Guardiola, 4: Simeone, 6: Allegri, 7: Löw, 8: Pochettino, 9: Ancelotti, 10: Jardim ... no Klopp :()
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    Macern SeARcHeS iMagEs oF fO0tbAlLeRs bAllSaCkS

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    Kante ahead of Pogba is quite shocking. Otherwise it’s a decent list. The positioning in attack makes no sense though.
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    Ram1fy New Member

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    The soccer fans would appreciate it. The list is insightful if Messi is not a striker.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin)

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    Yeah, surely from their 'logic' Robben would be classed as a wide forward, Griezmann and Dybala as forwards while Mertens hasn't been a wide forward for a while.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    When you see wide forward just think "winger".
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    Some of those players are currently out of form(Marcelo) and don't deserve their rankings or simply have been injured for too long(Neuer) to be eligible.
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    Denis79 Full Member

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    Clicked goalkeepers and didn't see De Gea at the top, didn't bother any further than that.
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    Footyislife Full Member

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    Pretty fair with a couple blips. DeGea is#1. Rashford has no business being on the list. Pogba should be #1/2 CM. Everyone saw the impact he had on the team with his injury. Why is Mkhi on the list when he can't even make the squad atm?
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    I dont agree with a lot of positions in the ranking, but the 10 players in each category are not that bad. Verratti and Icardi are missing though. Reus inclusion is a bit shocking, barely has played the last 2 years
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    Jaap Full Member

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    Find me a Top 100 players list to which everyone agrees & I‘ll be forever happy.

    This is sheer impossible.
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    Annihilate Now! ...or later, I'm not fussy

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    Mkhitaryan the 9th best AM in the world? I bloody wish. Not even sure he's the 90th.
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    Infordin Full Member

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    I would give Serie A a bit more love;

    Right Back:
    Moses and Bellerin out, Kimmich and Hysaj in

    Midfield: Rakitic out, Pjanic in

    Forwards: Rashford out, Insigne in

    Strikers: Benzema out, Mertens in
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    ashgabat Come look at our Swedish girls instead!

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    The valuations are interesting at times. Suarez at 30 is valued at £153 million, more than Neymar and Pogba. Harry Kane as a comparison valued at £74 million.

    Is Suarez really worth twice what Kane is?
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    Reus 5th best? :lol::lol: i cant remember if he even played 5 games in 2017
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    Dancfc New Member

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    Why not? This is 2017 not 2005.
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    The Firestarter Full Member

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    Lukaku before Cavani...
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    spontaneus1 Hamster, damn!

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    Nothing wrong with that, if you think Lukaku suffers fro shocking misses you don't want to see Cavani.
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    Theafonis In love with @Eboue

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    I don’t get this post. Kanté has two back to back titles and is an instrumental player in our midfield, just look at our results when he was injured compared to his return.

    But I didn’t bother to read the list. I don’t know why people make such a fuss about it, just ignore it.
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    Theafonis In love with @Eboue

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    Clearly the author still thinks it’s 2014
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    fjedN Full Member

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    haven'r heard that name in a long time :lol:
    poor guy, to be honest :( he could have achieved so much more if he wasn't so injury prone
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    Not a terrible list, compared to the usual dross. De Gea has been comfortably ahead of Neuer for two seasons now. Veratti missing from CM and Hamsik is too high on the list. Martial should be in instead of Willian on the wingers list, but that one's tricky as there are plenty of other strong shouts missing - very competitive spot at the moment. I was surprised to see Valencia as high as fourth on the RB list, but actually looking at who's behind him he merits that position. Reus' inclusion is out of date.
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    Im assuming the list is based on ability not form. I.e. if everyone was fit this is how the author thinks everyone will rank as.

    Because there is no other explanation for Bale and Reus.
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    Same. Honestly people are so lazy with the Neuer over De Gea thing. I think maybe Neuer has a great PR team and maybe that's a position where people just stick to their guns for a decade but that's not even opinion based it's simply wrong.
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    Robben 8th, below Bale. Hasnt Bale retired?
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    NieThePiet New Member

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    Is it all time or 2017?

    Why is Asensio the 6th best attacking midfield? Iniesta on 4th? They know it's 2017?
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    Grylte "nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"

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    Don't forget that Neuer stands in the midfield now and then, DDG never does!
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    I have the opposite impression - that the frequent dismissals of Neuer are rarely based on attempting an objective assessment. But so be it.
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    Position wise?

    GK: De Gea, Neuer, Buffon, Courtois, Lloris, Navas, Oblak, Cech, ter Stegen, Donnarumma.

    RB: Alves, Carvajal, Valencia, Walker, Bellerin, Aurier, Kimmich, Sidebe, Piszczek, Coleman

    LB: Marcelo, Alaba, Felipe Luis, Alex Sandro, Jordi Alba, Mendy, Azpilicueta, Rodriguez, Alonso, Rose.

    CB: Ramos, Pique, Cheillini, Silva, Luiz, Boateng, Bonucci, Hummels, Godin, Bailly.

    CM: Pogba, Vidal, Kante, Thiago, Alli, Modric, Nainggolan, Kroos, Fabregas, Casemiro

    CAM: De Bruyne, Isco, David Silva, Ozil, Eriksen, Mata, Coutinho, James Rodriguez, Asensio, Mkhitaryan.

    RW: Messi, Bale, Robben, Di Maria, Mane, Salah, Sterling, Pedro, Mahrez, Hulk

    LW: Ronaldo, Neymar, Hazard, Sanchez, Reus, Perisic, Sane, Insigne, Dembele, Rashford

    ST: Suarez, Ibrahimovic, Lewandowski, Cavani, Kane, Lukaku, Benzema, Higuain, Aguero, Costa.

    Based on pure ability and star power.
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    Some of these are just mental.

    Icardi should be there. Cavani is better than most of the names above him. Victor Moses :lol:

    Umtiti might be an even bigger snub than Icardi tbh. Anyone that has Varane over him needs to take up a different sport!
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    Yep, this needs to stop now. Kante is a great player and an important team player. I don't think he can contribute what Pogba can and we need to calm down.