Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by rcoobc, Apr 15, 2012.
What a joke
I'm all for those officials behind the goals. I've never seen them do anything, but sometimes you get one like that where they just couldn't have missed it.
Even an official behind the line probably wouldn't have seen it.
It was definitely Atkinson who awarded it, the fecking stupid twat. He was in a good position too. Farce.
It's sp*rs....feck 'em.
Didn't something similar happen last season between Chelsea and Spurs involving Gomes? He stopped the ball from going completely over the line yet it was given.
No official anywhere would have seen that goal apart from the worst ref in the world. Or Martin Atkinson as he's known to any friends he may actually have.
Yes. The amount of decisions that these plastics get is UNREAL.
You know they say it evens itself out over a season, but in a knockout situation like this it won't even itself out.
That goal was identical to the United goal in 1999 vs.... Juventus? Anyway this isn't the thread for it
Not even they deserve that.
It was like Rafa Benitez's proximity to a salad. Not even close.
And Mata celebrating while he must have seen the ball didn't cross the line. As bad as diving for a penalty in my opinion.
Cudicini should have gone down holding his head, of course he didn't know that then.
John Terry. I'm not sure how much he did wrong, but it does make me hate him more.
Hopefully footage of that replaces the repeated showings of the Carrol goal-that-wasn't when the goal-line debate comes up next time - that's just getting tedious.
I can't really tell from that pic whether the ball was in or not anyway, it just disappears for a moment inside the pile of players and then comes out.
Even if it was the wrong decision you can't blame it for the loss when you concede five of them on the night.
England vs Germany. Arsenal vs Barcelona. Man Utd vs QPR.
Big decisions change the game. The game is completely different at 1-0 than 2-0.
Hardly changed the outcome of the QPR game I'd still have fancied us to easily beat them.
You don't know that though. The goal killed the game as a contest. Nearly everyone said that
We probably would have won. But probably doesn't win football matches. It made the 90 minutes far more easy than they would have been otherwise and just about removed any chance of an upset.
Arsenal's goal was also controversial. The Eboue dive that got the free kick which Campbell then headed in. Also, Barcelona didn't get the goal. They would have been 1-0 up. Who knows how that could have benefit them. It was the wrong result but you can't say for certain who they favored because Barca were robbed a goal. I'd personally have taken the goal during that moment.
I meant the more recent one actually with Van Persie getting sent off. I was just thinking of the most recent games involving high profile incidents, where the final result looked easy but at the time the game was in doubt.
Had United not got the penalty and the red card, the match would have been 0-0 and a very different game to our eventual 2-0 win. Had Lampard's goal been given it would have been 2-2 and a very different game to the eventual 4-1. Had Van Persie not been sent off then Barcelona would have been 3-2 down on aggregate, with time ticking down. A different game to the final result.
It looks like good decision.
If so, fair enough. I don't think so though.
I thought Terry on King was a foul there to be honest.
Atkinson's not so bad at this refereeing business after all then?
From that picture, it looks like Atkinson made the right call.
No, firstly, even from that it looks inconclusive. You can't definitively say, yes, that is over the line, so what Keane said still stands - he's guessing. Secondly, Terry himself said that he thought he blocked it on the line. I do think that picture could be shopped. Why else would ITV show the ball to be so far away from the line if it was actually there? Plus all the replays of it looked like at most, some of the ball was on the line. How come there's such a dramatic change now to what we've all seen?
Hmmm...it does look the right decision from that pic.
This definitely doesn't look shopped.
Edit: Link from GettyImages site
From that picture, you cannot say the whole ball crossed the whole of the line. It looks like part of it is on the line.
KM got there first.
Possibly was in
Possibly wasn't, but it certainly wasn't the terrible call I thought originally.
Could be a shop but the position of the ball is consistent with where King is looking. Who knows?
The ball is over the line in that picture though.
That looks on the line, which makes a mockery of ITV's shitty little 3D graphic that showed the ball nowhere near it.
clearly not over. Atkinson continuous to prove he is the worst ref in the premier league. I am continuously baffled by how he continues to get picked for high profile games domestically and in Europe. Maybe the fa like him cause he not afraid decisions no matter how bad they are :/
I agree that Atkinson was probably guessing a bit but credit where credit is due, that is a good call.
Look at the close up. It's over the line.
I said I thought it looks like it could be shopped. Not that it was. I barely know how to use photoshop nor do I know what you can really do with it. I'm offering a possible explanation. But this is my main point:
You need to be certain. At least beyond all reasonable doubt. We're still debating it now, how could he be so sure at that time in full speed?
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