Fabio Capello

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    Plechazunga Grammar partisan who sleeps with a real life Ryan

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    :lol: :lol: feck me, he's surpassed himself

    That reads like a babelfish translation of an article written in haste by an okapi.

    It's not just that he can't write... he also can't think. Ideas flop half-formed onto the keyboard, then slink away as if in shame, mere seconds into their existence. They're similar in that respect to 'impact', under Capello:

    My favourite bit, though with heavy competition, is probably this:

    Aside from anything, his editor should be thoroughly ashamed of himself.
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    Wenger... offer the bloody gig to Wenger

    He must be sick of the Arse, they are never going to make it into the top four and if they do RVP will want to go to Barca or Real in the summer and they'll be shite next season.

    and judging by that booing that went on when he subbed of Oxlade-Chamberlin against us... there must be a fair few Arse supporters who would like to see him leave as well.

    Perfect timing, perfect fit.
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    Cheers Gaz, though frankly it's also a scandal he's being paid for it and not Devilish
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    noodlehair "It's like..."

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    This is the stupid thing about all this.

    The armband didn't matter. It's only important as an ambassador type thing in that the England Captain represents what the team is supposed to stand for.

    It only became an issue when Capello decided to give it back to someone who'd been stripped of it in disgrace, and in doing so take it away from someone else for no reason, pissing them and other people off...and then the person he gave it back to, who'd never actually done anything to redeem themselves or even stop disgracing themselves in the first place, disgraced themselves again.

    Capello managed to make a big important fecking mess out of something that didn't actually matter...and yet people still think he was doing a good job.

    Some people just can't handle the England job, even if they're good managers elsewhere. Capello should have gone back in 2010 when it became clear he was one of these people.
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    Capello off to Inter Milan probably
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    ^^ you made me go back and check then. He's not banned, just got the banned tag.

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    Nope. Bored with the pair of them following me around the forum dishing out childish insults and offering no redeemable characteristics in return.

    Well, I was bored with it ages ago...it's just that now I'm bored AND being a cnut about it.
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    Wasn't a total waste, but my impression is that Capello never really fit into the role. The sterile, ultra-authoritarian nature of the WC preparations seems to do anything but help the players focus. He made some interesting line-up choices and helped Rooney by playing him 'in the hole' which soon caught on at United, England certainly played better at first, but he made some strange personnel choices too. He never took the next step, getting the settled team to work with serious chemistry and understanding.

    Probably should have just gone after the Italy job.
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    The England managers job is a pile of shit really:

    The F.A want a strong personality in there who can deal with the massive ego of the players and cope with the press, who are generally baying for bloody

    But The F.A also want someone who will fall in line with them and follow their orders...

    hmmm.... meanwhile.

    The press want someone English (but only if the last manger was foreign, if the last manager was English, it doesn't matter) and who will win tournaments like the Euro's and the World Cup (a feat nearing impossibility).

    They also want a decisive man who will pick the right players who are in form and are right for the team.... however, they will themselves outline who these players are and will criticise you if you don't pick them... and if you do pick the team they pick, will either a)claim all the credit when you win or b)lambast you when it all goes tits up.

    Basically, it's a bag of shit... and I can see why Capello became fed up with it all and walked away, if indeed that's what happened.
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    I haven't read through all of this thread since yesterday, but I have heard a load of English pundits on the radio/tv and I would just like to make a couple of points:

    The likes of Steve Claridge was on Newstalk last night gloating over the fact that Capello is gone, saying he was a crap manager who got crap results and who couldn't speak English. Capello has statistically the best win rate of any English manager. A point was put across that that was because England play more friendlies nowadays. Well, that's true, but it's not as if England are playing the likes of San Marino and American Samoa in friendlies. It's very good teams such as Spain and Holland.

    The language thing is annoying. Capello has pretty good English in comparison to say, Trapattoni. Trap can't speak any English and has no communication with the players whatsoever. If the lads want to contact someone within the camp, they have to contact the tea lady or a security man. England weren't actually doing too bad with Capello.

    And why would the next manager have to be English? The likes of Barry Fry, Rio and Michael Owen are all saying it should be. Why? It's not as if the last two were of any use. Harry will get found out just like the others. England aren't winning tournaments because they haven't got the quality of players. Everyone can go on about Rooney but he hasn't performed at all in the recent major tournaments. John Terry, Ashley Cole, Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard, generally seen as some of England's best players, have been in decline for a while. The likes of Gareth Barry and Stuart Downing continuously get games and they are very average players. Rio doesn't play half the time, and realistically he isn't the player he once was. Joe Hart is exceptional.

    Capello had a very good record especially in qualifying. I don't see why the country is rejoicing as if Capello leaving means Harry or someone else are nailed on the lead England to glory. England failed miserably at the last World Cup, but it wasn't helped by the fact that England's main player Rooney was ridiculously shite during it. Being knocked out by Germany isn't exactly a new thing either, plus that was a very good German team.

    Harry hasn't exactly won many trophies during his managerial career. Capello did pretty good with what he had and I can't see how Harry is going to improve it. He isn't some kind of tactical mastermind.

    I don't know. I would like to see England doing well but I think the chances of that have got a lot slimmer with Capello going. Only my opinion anyway.

    The likes of Claridge and Fry going on like England are destined for glory now and Capello was a shite manager is absolutely ridiculous.
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    Well yeah, the likes of Claridge and Fry are motormouths who no one really takes seriously.

    But I don't think people are rejoicing. And I don't think anyone is under any illusions as to England's place in the football world right now (also-rans, regardless of the manager). But Capello didn't really win people over and I think that is why people aren't sorry to see the back of him.

    I also think it's a bit wrong to suggest the chances of England doing well have got slimmer now that Capello has gone - this man, as good a manager as he is, presided over a dismal World cup showing and by and large was navigating choppy waters behind the scenes anyway.
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    Personally, I think the manager of the national team should always be from that country. International football is about pitting the best from your country against the best from other countries. I think that should include the manager, as well as the players. Part of what annoys me so much about African football is the obsession with hiring foreign managers. It doesn't allow an environment where you can develop coaches in your own country. I liked Egypt a lot because they were achieving success with an Egyptian manager. Now they've gone like all the rest. Serious question. When was the last time France, Spain, Italy, Argentina, Germany or Brazil hired a foreign manager?

    Wasn't Capello the highest paid international manager ever? So he qualified for the tournament and then....oh, did just as shit as everyone else, foreign or British. Being knocked out by Germany wouldn't have happened if England weren't so unbelievably dire against Algeria, Slovenia and the USA. None of this bull about English players being over-rated either (which they are), they're better than their equivalents from those countries. So England pay Capello and Sven a huge amount of money. They both get England playing poor football. They both get England max to the quarter finals. So these managers, with all their trophies and experience, barely do more than the English ones do. Right, good use of money then.

    Ramos won a lot more trophies than Redknapp did. How did their respective stints at Spurs go? Some people see things like this as so black and white. They're really not.

    Really? Did his world cup showing encourage you to feel optimistic about the future with Capello in charge?
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    I'm delighted. Well somewhere between that and not really caring.

    The last thing England needed going into a tournament they've no chance of winning, was to be led by a manager who's fecking off straight afterwards anyway and not interested in building a team for the tournaments further down the line.

    Particuarly one who made such an arse of the last tournament and who's so desperate to have his precious captain he considers it more important than the good of the team itself.


    Of course, the FA could make some daft appointment with a moronically short term view in mind again, and then whoever it is will be pressured into playing it safe and picking the same team Capello did, and nothing will change. In fact this is probably what's going to happen, but at least now there's a chance it might not. A combined series of calamities from various peoples have created a chance to effectively wipe them all out and start over
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    You make some good points here. I'd have to agree that Capello has done a much better job than some are giving him credit for. He slightly underachieved in his one major tournament, but apart from that, you'd have to look at his reign as England manager as one that's generally been decent.

    On the matter of whether the manager should be English or not, I both agree and disagree with you. Part of me thinks that England should have an English manager, because it's really the way international football should be. I'm of the opinion that all international teams should have managers from their own nation. At the same time though, I can see where you're coming from. If you look at the very best managers out there who in contention, then they are all foreigners. Mourinho and Hiddink would be the standout names. Redknapp may be a good manager, but Mourinho and Hiddink would have to go on the level above that.
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    Agreed with that, it was shaping up to be even more of a waste of a tournament than usual. At least now there's a chance, however slim, of some foundations being laid down for the future, rather than just one last rolling out of the old guard.
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    I think he got tired of being England manager. If the rumours about the England camp in SA were true, I think he got tired of it then. He'd done a decent enough job seeing them for the odd few days preparing for a qualifier. Faced with the job 24 hours a day, and still without a thing that looked like a team, he failed.

    I think he was expecting to fail again in June and decided he didn't need to waste 6 months. As it stands he probably feels if England do anything, it'll be "his team" and if it doesn't it'll be "off field incidents and politics."

    So back to Madrid in June then?
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    Capello could do a good job there, but to me, this whole thing around Anzhi seems all about just getting the biggest names they can find, player and manager wise. They'd be much better off actually focusing on building a quality side that can play well together.
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    Well the timing was just delicious for Capello. Hmmmmmmm.....
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    Didn't someone on predict that on the day he resigned?
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    Inter Milan are 1-0 down against Novara after one hour.

    Maybe Capello should wait for a job in Milano.

    I don't think Ranieri will be coach of Inter Milan in the next season.
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    If Di Matteo doesn't get the Chelsea job....? Says he doesn't work for money but who else would be available?
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    I still wouldn't be surprised to see him ending up at Inter.
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    Well Di Matteo got the hint now.
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    I can't see a scenario where Chelsea are in the Champions League and the Chelsea job is available. 4th place is almost out of sight and they surely won't sack him if he wins it.
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    Indeed although I won't be that surprised if Di Matteo is made an assistant again with Capello taking over the managerial position even if they win CL.
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    That would be a real slap in the face, I can't imagine he'd accept that. If he were a European Champion I'm sure he could get a top job somewhere else if Chelsea want Capello.
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