Gary Neville's last season - "I was embarrassed every day"

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    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

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    AXVnee7 Full Member

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    United through and through
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    2 man midfield Incestuous Modern Woman (Dumper!)

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    The full interview was posted on here last night, well worth a watch.
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    Can someone forward this to rooney.
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    Must be one of the hardest things to admit as a player, that your finished.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    Remember watching those games with Dad and we talked about Neville. It was clear he was a spent force, and he was keeping a better player out of the team. Kind of shows how, towards the end of his managerial career Fergie become over reliant on his old core of players. I can't imagine Fergie wouldve had much job the seasons after he retired either.
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    I'd forgive Rooney if he said something similar in public in 10 years time.
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    Savage-light revelation.
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    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

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    Link?
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    Only if he gave up his fortune and signed on for the JSA.
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    Did Gary fully retire from the club after his contract ended or not?
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    Your obsession with Rooney is just plain ridiculous. Why make every thread about Rooney? And you're the same kind of guys who say media overly focuses on him and get frustrated when his name is mentioned in a press conference. It's this obsession with him that broke him and not anything else I feel. And by the way, it was managers who offered him a 6-year contract, managers who never dropped him and managers who still play him. Mourinho can do the same thing to Rooney as he did to Casillas - why won't he?
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    Go away Wayne/Coleen.
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    Sparky10Legend Banned

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    Well it certainly isnt due to his performances. As bad as Gaz was, Rooney has been just as bad in many many games.
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    It was sad seeing Neville fall off a cliff after his injury in 2007 following one of his finest seasons IMO for most of that year. Brown had a blinder of a season in 07-08 but I felt Rednev would've been even better.
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    However, in most games the decision has been made for him by JM. In Gaz' case he realised that he was a defensive liability and costing us games. Strikers can always think that someone else might step in and score
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    The full interview is great, must watch IMO.

    Is it fair to say SAF got too sentimental? Trying to keep Gary around when he felt he was finished
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    We've come a long way from that generation. They really wanted what was best for the club and that's a huge reason they were so good for us too
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    That's serious professional pride. Most players won't give a feck.
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    Nev would have run through a brick wall for Utd, it must have been so difficult to admit he just wasnt up to it anymore.
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    I do remember those games, and remember just feeling bad for him. You could definitely see he was just done. It was just sad really.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    Will never forget the WBA game, he was a shambles. How we won that game remains a mystery.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    On another note, part of what made Fergie such a great manager, could also have been detrimental. He was too loyal. Trying to convince Gary to carry on, when he was clearly finished, could have cost us.
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    I like three things about this message

    1. Creativity
    2. Originality
    3. How you were able to identify the core of the point I was trying to make and responded to that

    You are my new hero
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    Isn't that what made SAF that great though? The fact that he didn't just look at his players simply as commodities who could be discarded the moment they didn't perform as well. Gary was loyal to Utd for so long and so SAF was being loyal to him, kind of like he was with Scholes and Giggs. People can say that harmed us moving forward but I actually think it is this loyalty and affection that made players play above their best for SAF, which in the long term is more beneficial for the culture at the club. I mean SAF recently contacted Macheda after he was picked up by some Seria B club. Just goes to show how much he cared for all his players, for me I would run through a brick wall for such a manager and that can only be a good thing in the long term.
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    Which is why very few do that. I mean, no one retired in the middle of the season once realising they are no longer good enough.
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    I would say that you're right, but in the latter part of his career Fergie tended to hang on to players for far too long. That was a big part of our midfield issues. From the bus that waits for no one we became the bus that stopped at every stop.
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    But he still won the league with them didn't he? Even the season before we lost only on GD. Carrick has been playing for the past 3 years at a high level so we only needed to replace Scholes in the middle of the park, who also didn't really play every game, Cleverly was playing a fair few games and we were winning them too. That's my point, that players exceeded themselves playing for him because he showed them that affection and loyalty which for me is very important.

    In that interview which the OP mentions, Phil Neville says that camaraderie and that team spirit were one of the most important factors of our success under SAF. And it is only by being loyal to the players that you can build that spirit, you keep dumping them around because they have lost a step, the other players are gonna look and think that could be me someday, they will never be able to trust the manager. Gary admitted he felt embarrassed because he felt he was letting Utd down, why would he feel that if the club hadn't been loyal to him? If he was a player who had played for 5 different clubs he wouldn't care about the club, he'd just be worried about his pay cheque. If the clubs treat players as commodities then the players will treat the club as the same.
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    dichinero Banned

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    What makes it an obsession? Do you we not have a player in a similar state? Wayne Rooney's name can't be mentioned without it being called an obsession
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    I remember those games. I remember feeling bad for him. Knowing that he felt the same increases my respect by many fold if that was possible. for him, it seems , the club was above the player.
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    Will Absolute Banned

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    That interview must be years old. How come we're only seeing it now?
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    No mate, it's been filmed since the EFL final.

    Either that or you're right and they can see into the future. :lol:

    There's another thread with the full video posted - someone posted the link above.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    No, it was yesterday.
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    Will Absolute Banned

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    We didn't get a close up, but is Phil dying his hair? He certainly looks younger than the last time I saw him.
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    And maybe we would have won the league in 2012 with a better midfield. And maybe we'd have done better in the Champions League.

    I'm sure Fergie would agree you should always look to improve and be the best. We did very well, but could have done better.
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    Yeah, since over 10 years ago I think!