Genuine hard men in modern football

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    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    After discussing what Arsenal need to improve it seems many fans feel they need someone with a backbone, a leader, a Patrick Vieria.

    But I can’t actually think of any in modern day football. Can anyone think of a hard man footballer in the top leagues in Europe?

    They don’t have to necessarily be a nutcase like Gattuso. But certainly have leadership qualities and lead by example.

    I’d say from the Premier League, Vincent Kompany and that’s about it.
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    Summit "do the dead, spread your seed and get out"

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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Kompany? Never thought of him as a hard man

    Scot Brown is a bit of a throwback. Here is him getting hacked a few days ago. Not many in the prem would've reacted like this...
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    Considering he was trusted with the house keys ahead of his older brother, I reckon Granit Xhaka would be up for the responsibility.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Can't think of anyone. Zlatan isn't playing anymore to consider him an option and Kompany is too injury prone.
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    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    I said top European Leagues :D
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    They’re all big strong lads who usually get stuck in.
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    Blackwidow Full Member

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    I do not see Arturo Vidal as leader even if you could categorize him as a fighter and maybe hard man. Maybe for Chile - at Bayern he is not.

    Van Bommel was for me the genuine leader type hard man - somebody that led the duels to show the opponent until here and not further and to set a sign. Vidal is a different type of player even if he always is near the cards as he has the tendency to come a little late.
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    Neymar imo. Dude gets kicked all game and keeps going forward.
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    abdo99 Full Member City Lover

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    Zlatan is definitely a leader although he can rub some up the wrong way. Not really many I can think of.
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    Charles Miller Full Member Verified Moaner

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    You can see Scot has tiny hands. Thats why he needs to create that tough persona.
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    DJ Jeff Not so Jazzy

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    How did the thread get this far without mention of the only real modern hardman, Mascherano! Guy tore his anus making that amazing tackle on Robben in the WC Semi and played on. Should've been our Keane replacement.
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    Jinn Full Member

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    He's got a weak one, over used and not taken care off.
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    Kompany :lol: Jesus Christ
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member

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    :lol:

    There aren't any. I'm not saying there aren't genuinely tough players who can handle themselves but I think players known as hardmen, footballing skill aside, have died out in this era.
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    Roy Keane is the "hardest" player of all time

    Infact, he's the toughest sportsman in history
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    Do you remember Gattuso, short tough guy who won CLs and a World cup? Well according to him, Kessie is a better player then he was. He wasn't referring in terms of being a hard man. However players like him rarely give such a praise to others unless they share most of the characteristics they had.

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    The Bloody-Nine Full Member

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    No, he isn't.
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    Ronaldo is always hard.
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    Toughest sportsman in history?!? He wouldn't last 2 rounds against a professional boxer.
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    He was a good amateur boxer, so he probably would with a bit of training.
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    That's ace. I saw Celtic play Aberdeen a few times at Pittodrie when I lived in Aberdeen. Brown is like a panto villain up there. They hate him and he loves it. I do like seeing players who thrive in a tough atmosphere than those who buckle under it.

    I was at this particular game where he did this, starts a move with a meaty two footer, scores at the other end and then celebrates infront of the home crowd amid bits of pie being launched at him.



    Then he sauntered back to the halfway line right along the touchline really slowly, chest puffed out, more pie thrown at him.
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    The Bloody-Nine Full Member

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    Four bouts in the novice league when he was a kid? I'm not sure about that.
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    Rumours were that Irwin was the hard man at O.T.
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    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

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    Ramos is actually pretty hard IMO. Never shies away from 50/50 duels and never showed any kind of fear in arguments. Even pointed once to Pinto 'lets take this to the tunnel' and he looked dead serious about it.
    I know Ramos dives, but that's all tactical. When shit does get real Ramos never backs away.
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    OnlyTwoDaSilvas Gullible

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    I don't know if Kompany is the type of hardman to go round having a go at everyone - probably not, he seems quite nice - but he was the only player on the pitch last night with short sleeves and no gloves. Everyone else had one, the other, or both. Hard. He probably ran home from London in his kit afterwards. Trains are for sissies.

    But if you header the ball whilst it is in the ground inches from the studs of an oncoming striker, then you're double hard.

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    Kompany - quite hard. Jones - proper well hard.
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    I agree with Ramos, Kompany and maybe just maybe.. Zlatan. The rest are just great players. Not all great players are suitable to be captains or to be considered leaders. I certainly don't think that CR or Messi are. They sure are the top 2 players maybe ever and they sure get a ton of respect but that doesn't make you a leader (maybe Zlatan fits in here somewhere as well).

    Leaders that inspired the whole team around them and were hugely respected even from fans of other teams like Keane, Maldini, Totti, Hierro, Puyol, Kahn, Mathaus and others, were pure class from a football and mentality point of view. Sadly I can't think many nowadays.

    Xhaka?, Hendo?, Motta? LOL
    Who's next Danny Boy?
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    Heath.1967 New Member

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    Gattuso no doubt , world class hard man in football who was the integral part of the CL and WC winning team
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