Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by RDCR07, Jul 26, 2016.
Didn't really "call him out".
Sarri: "He needs to improve the physical and mental condition, I think"
Sure, he does. Not really slagging the player, just stating the facts.
Them facts are damning.
Still better than Morata!
Well I have to assume I was wrong on this one. Think my argument was with @SquishyMcSquish . Never expected such a fall on performances with 31 years. At least for this level. Of course the problems with Chelsea are far to being explained by this.
He hasn't even been bad, was pretty good tonight for example. He should be getting a 1 in 2 goalscoring record.
Chelsea's creative players love to complicate things, they fail to see easy passes to put him through on goal too often. Constantly crossing the ball to him isn't going to help him either.
Seems like he only scored v Huddersfield. Must've scored in at least another league game?
Fulham a couple of weeks ago.
Both are championship standard defences.
Nothing so far against top half standard defences. He didn't even score v Bournemouth....
I've been vocal saying that he'd be a waste of space at Chelsea - never thought he'd score more than 8 goals in the PL. So far, so good.
Hey @pensionator shaking in my boots here!
tbh I actually think he's been ok. Jorginho certain looks better with him in the side even if it's only due to that 1 touch lofted pass he does at least once a game (it's one more forward pass than he was ever doing before Higuain came into the side). He's definitely not been a flop to the standards of Torres or Morata
It shouldn't be a surprise he's only scored against the fodder thus far, that's the story of his career
No, it isn't:
Feel free to check the history books. That's the story that's been presented to you by the English media and confirmed in the handful of CL games you watched. Like many top players, including many United ones you've praised profusely, his international career is another story. Which was true for van Persie until he came to us, and scored against all the big PL teams, and the idea that he was a flat track bully would now be considered ludicrous. Stories are very misleading if you don't consider the source of the narrative.
I think he's been ok too. Good enough to start as a #9 for a team in Chelsea's position, unlike the last two. Not good enough to help them win a title though. Just how we like it! The idea that he's the most complete striker of the last decade is looking increasingly ridiculous as time goes on
Pretty obvious to anyone that’s watched him in recent times that this would be a pretty terrible piece of transfer business.
Between 2017 till now Chelsea has had Costa, Morarata, Batshuayi, Giroud and Higuain as center forwards.
United, Rashford and Lukaku
Liverpool, Firmino and Sturridge
City, Aguero and Jesus
Spurs, Kane and Llorente
Arsenal, Aubaumeyang and Lacazette
Chesea has got to find their attacking touch.
I watched several Chelsea games, they play horrible. It's almost impossible to score as a CF in that team right now, some big changes have to be made.
Old striker who was struggling in Serie A failing to do much in a superior, faster paced league shocker.
I mean, was anyone shocked by this?
If they don't put the ball forward not even Aguero can work for them.
How is it impossible? He was played through by a wonderful pass by Jorginho yesterday (credit to him given all the stick he's taken recently) and was through on goal against one of the worst keepers in world football (according to the Caf).
It was a really poor finish, barely trickled past Pickford and easily cleared before reaching the line.
I think if he'd come to the prem after leaving Madrid he would've done fine as he was decent enough for Juventus but yeah agree last year of being move out for Ronaldo has probably hit his motivation levels and he's getting on.
I thought the problem with Morata was that he couldn't finish? He seemed to get plenty of chances for Chelsea, he was through on goal loads, he just had a horrible conversion rate. Chelsea fans kept saying that all they needed was a great striker to compete for the league, that a clinical striker would complete the jigsaw, all that malarkey.
Feels like the goalposts have moved and now it's a problem with service. Top strikers can generally still manage to score even when the service isn't top class, Higuain has only managed it vs two of the worst three teams in the league.
Like I said above, the transfer had failure written all over it, Chelsea fans seemed to think they were getting Higuain in his prime. He's 31 and has question marks over his fitness in recent years, as well as a horrible spell at Milan. People blamed a lack of motivation for his performances there, now it's a lack of service at Chelsea.
I think that with time and properly assisted he will do fine.
He’s shite. Mental opinions in this thread people saying he was better than RvP
Yes he was.
At being a fat shit eating pig.
I don’t know why but that really tickled me
Not much in it either way. Both were very good.
Is it just a loan or have they committed themselves to buy this rapidly declining big-game-shirker?
Better off sticking with Morata tbh
Better or worse than Falcao?
He has scored 3 goals in 2 games only out of 12 he played, but people convinced me he's going to be a good signing for them.
I told you.
They've got him on loan for next season aswell I think unless there's a break clause in there.
That's just dreadful. Really hope the transfer ban stands.
Would've been fine coming to the prem at 25-28.
Strikers in their 30s playing in prem for first time dosen't usually go well tbh, Zlatan excepted who more than hit the ground running.
The loan is util the end of this season with an option for another year, thank feck!
A statement on Juventus.com read: “The agreement also grants to Chelsea the options to extend the duration of the loan until 30 June 2020, for a consideration of 18m euros (£15.7m) to be paid in 2019-20 financial year, or to acquire the registration rights of the player on a permanent basis for 36m euros (31.3m) to be paid in two financial years.”
Best striker of his generation, better than RVP according to @Peyroteo
He peaked in that Napoli season, been downhill since then. Looked like a lottery winner out there today.
Another famous Chelsea striker to add to the illustrious list.
Fair enough. Guess you'll send him back especially if Sarri leaves as he was the one who really pushed for the transfer.
Think problem is Higuain was doing fine at Juve but he lost motivation after being the one pushed out for Ronaldo rather than Mandzukic, wasn't that great at Milan really.
Interesting what Chelsea do with their striking options if the ban holds for next season. You've got Giroud getting on now and not got a great scoring record at all for them, if Hazard leaves that's a front three option gone and likes of Abraham and Batshuyai will get chances but neither are top class standard. Morata will push for move full time to Atletico.
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