Good football rules that were binned

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    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    Wait what? Of course there is an advantage, you can come from behind the CB who never sees you coming to collect the ball from deep.
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    I totally agree!

    That rule only helped players & agents to make more money. The Bosman rule should be only about contract ending, because what happened before in terms of contract ending was abusive from the clubs part.

    The three foreign rule break was just good for the big clubs, who can basically concentrate a lot of talent in the same squad. If they could had only 3 foreign players, small clubs could actually have quality players and the leagues + euopean competitions would be much more balanced.
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    Catch New Member

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    thats good to hear, but its for the ref to get play started again straight away rather than wait for it to happen.
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    We did that at youth level. It was fine, but we were kids so we didn't know about time wasting and all that nonsense. Rolling subs with adults would definitely need to have the clock stopped.

    I used to take my teams free kicks and I was subbed on in one game just to take a free kick, scored it and subbed straight back off :lol:
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    OnlyTwoDaSilvas Gullible

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    The offside rule was to prevent goal hanging. If you're running away from goal and away from the defenders, there's no advantage being gained to forge any sort of direct goal scoring opportunity in that phase of play. 99% of the time, they happen nowhere near goal, usually from a long clearance and a centre forward slowly ambling back. They're rather frequent in amateur football, from a player who has bombed forward, slowly retreats back to catch his breath, then runs away from goal to challenge for a clearance. Then everyone yells at him for being a lazy shite.

    To me they're an offside-but-not-really, but rules is rules.
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    stevoc Full Member

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    Golden goal was fecking shite i'm glad they got rid of it. It was basically playground next goal wins bullshit. In professional football the game shouldn't end just because someone might have scored a flukey goal, you should always have a chance to equalize.

    Silver goal wasn't a bad compromise though.

    Daylight offsides should be a rule though, its ridiculous that your feet can be inline with the defenders but your arm or knee can be offside. Stupid, you can't score with your arm so wheres the advantage?
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    Nobody watches football to see a well organised offside trap. It's a farce how much it is refereed in favour of the defending side.

    I agree with those calling for the daylight idea to be made a rule and to scrap offside when receiving the ball in an onside position. We want to see goals and good attacking play - not more whistle blowing by referees.

    While we're at it, can we introduce a rule where by any defender who moves his body out of the line he was running in to "shield" the ball from an attacker, is pinged for doing what he's doing. Which is obstructing.
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    OnlyTwoDaSilvas Gullible

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    You can't officially be offside with your arm. Only a part of your body that can play the ball. Not sure how a linesman manages to judge that in real time though, but when Sky Sports draw the line, it should disregard arms.

    I agree though. The one against Huddersfield with the wonky VAR lines where Juan Mata's kneecap was offside was mad. As someone said earlier, it should be like goal line technology, the whole of the body should be offside, not just a knee!
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    Good thing that isn't the rule then eh?
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    The Cat Doesn't know his own mobile number

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    I can remember in Sunday league for a bit we had a rule where you couldn't be offside from a pass in your own half.

    Did that get up any further?
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    Good post. I could swear some good goals were disallowed beacasue the attackers body was tilted so it crossed the offside line set by defender's feet. Idiotic to say the least.
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    Slevs likes to play with penises

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    I fecking don't. fecking Trezeguet.
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    Slevs likes to play with penises

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    Currently, you can't be offside in your own half. So imagine lukaku is right at the end of our half and is technically further than anyone else, if someone passes to him, he wouldn't be called offside.
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    That isn't what he said though.

    He said you couldn't be offside from a PASS in your own half. So you could have Scholes / Beckham launching long balls over the top every time and never be offside.

    Stupid rule.
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    Slevs likes to play with penises

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    I know what he said. It's obviously not implemented but there's a similar rule regarding offsides and your own half, which I mentioned.
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    Wouldn't that just promote a hoofball long ball strategy? Wouldn't make for entertaining football
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    Yes. Both team play away and home. So it's fair game. The better team often doesn't go through which makes zero sense. Lot of teams were robbed of that rule.
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    OnlyTwoDaSilvas Gullible

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    I'd agree, but Pogba is probably the best in the world at it. It's crazy how far he gets away form the ball whilst 'shielding' it and is rarely penalised. Let's keep that one lenient for now :wenger:
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    Away teams used to park the bus and hope for a clean sheet to gain advantage in the second leg at home. This rule almost forces teams to go toe-to-toe as away goals now hold more value.
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    What about the American style penalty shootout? I always find that much more entertaining.
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    hungrywing Full Member

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    You mean the one where a ring of fire is randomly placed on one side of the goalie, but if the kicker misses, the kicking team loses a goal?
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    Nick7 Full Member

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    Yeah away goal needs to go.
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    Golden goal is a weird one. Some people claim that it made games a lot better and exciting in extra time but I remember a lot lot really dull games where both teams were extremely scared to attack because they didn't want to open up to risk to concede. So my gut says that it was a good decision to reverse the rule.
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    Penalise blocking/ grabbing on corners and set pieces; I.e. when players are not even looking at the ball and are just trying to impead their opponent like an NFL gane

    The Prem went to town on it early in the season a couple of years ago, but it petered out.
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    worldinmotion66 Full Member

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    No, the one where Dianna Ross takes every penalty and breaks the goal in two even when she misses, because she gets a goal awarded anyway for great hair and an enthusiastic running style.
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    The Cat Doesn't know his own mobile number

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    Yes it was. We tried to exploit it and found it wasn't even much advantage when you had posession.
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    SadlerMUFC Full Member

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    Exactly. In hockey they changed the offside so that if everyone checks back in it negates the offside and keeps the game flow going. I know hockey and football offsides are different, but it's the same principle. Just keep the flow of the game going...
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    stevoc Full Member

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    Fair enough i didn't mean an arm sticking out it was poorly worded, i meant when someones feet are in line with the defenders but their body is leaning forward. I've seen those given as offside, similar to this one.


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    Fair enough in a lot of them maybe the attackers head is offside, but honestly again not sure how thats seen as advantage.
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    VintageWhatnots Full Member

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    The defender could just as easily be running on the example I gave?

    The point of the offside rule is not to stop attacking its to stop goal hanging. A player who ends up in a not offside position (particularly, if it's in or near their own half) clearly isn't goal hanging.
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    M Utd Full Member

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    I'm older than some and miss the old offside. Back then you were either offside or not. We had none of this "It's in the 2nd, 3rd or 25th phase of play". I know it's supports the attackers more but back then the back four operated in tandem and for those who like that sort of thing watching a back line step up to play the opposition was a thing of beauty. I've been doing coaching recently and run the line a few times. My god that's changed. No wonder there are more errors in the game (Or perhaps they are just discussed more on multiple platforms).
    My post is a little tongue in cheek but in some ways it was a simpler time.
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    Schneckerl Full Member

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    Rules from the early days like being allowed to charge the GK
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    shamans Hoser

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    Bring back the snood!
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    acnumber9 Full Member

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    Well yeah but a player in an offside position clearly has a running start. That’s why they do it and it’s the main reason defenders win most headers.
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    RedDevil@84 Full Member

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    Golden goal was horrible. So was that useless Silver goal.
    Away rule should also go.
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    Golden goal in theory was epic drama filled extra time. In reality, both teams were terrified to concede so risked little.

    Daylight offside I kinda like. The whole offside has gone mad. Everyone has the knives out for the lines man if he gets it wrong because we have the benefit of a million slow motion cameras. Its a difficult job and if I'm being honest I'd say they guess half of them to be safe.
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    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    Can someone please confirm does the offside rule mention anything about benefiting the attacking player?

    I always hear this from pundits and other fans but can’t see how this is true. Otherwise why would VAR rule a player offside for having their hand beyond the last defender?

    I think it should come down to the attackers feet are beyond the last defender, with linesman only waving offside when it’s obvious. It’s worked well in the World Cup when there were no English officials. Then the officials from the ‘best league in the world’ can’t do something so basic when it has been tested.
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    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    Don’t agree with you. You would end up with the very best strikers like Aguero drifting behind the defenders only to rush onside when the ball is pinged over to him. I think it would give a massive advantage to the very best attackers. The rules need adjusting but I agree with this rule.
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    Pexbo has never watched Star Wars

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    Was it in some American tournament where they replaced penalties with a scenario where the player would start from the half way line and carry the ball towards goal and the goalkeeper could come off his line. Basically a one on one situation.

    I thought it was brilliant.
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    Darwin09 Theory of Thread Pollution

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    Golden Goal

    Watch Sweden v Senegal extra time from 2002 WC and you just can't disagree.
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    VintageWhatnots Full Member

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    But we're not just talking about crosses into the box, this happens near the half way line. The attacker could just as easily run from an onside position, to gain that same advantage.

    The rule isn't designed to stop players having an advantage, it is designed to stop a player hanging around at the top end of the field just waiting for a ball to be smashed up to him.

    Apart from the fact that running to get to a ball first isn't an unfair advantage, that is playing football