Graeme Sourness

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  1. May 25, 2017

    Bojan11 Full Member

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    Thought he was a decent pundit and told it as it is.

    It's clear now him and Redknapp have issues with Mourinho in particular.
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    Inter Yer Nan Full Member

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    I'd love to hear what Mourinho thinks about Souness' management career and coaching in general.
  3. May 25, 2017

    GDaly95 Sexist Pig

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    Honestly, pundits have clearly been bias on many occasions in the past but tonight was just a joke. He was genuinely seething. Like he basically refused to say anything remotely good about us and he was just so bitter. It was actually ridiculous.
  4. May 25, 2017

    Fridge chutney Requested ban until 09/04/2018

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    Can someone please link the bitter twat's ramblings from tonight? I personally find his bitterness hilarious.
  5. May 25, 2017

    ClosetDevil Full Member

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    I need to see this...
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    Acole9 Outstanding

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    Apparently he admitted on a league of their own that he can't stand Mourinho. As for Graeme Sourgrapes, he's just upset because he's done nothing but coat Mourinho and the squad (Mainly Pogba) off all season and now he looks very foolish.
  7. May 25, 2017

    Ibi Dreams Full Member

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    I don't doubt that Souness is biased, but he's just such a downer in general anyway. Even when he's saying something positive he looks and sounds like somebody has a gun pointed at his head.
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    Bojan11 Full Member

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    Mourinho called out Redknapp a few years ago I believe.
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    Frank Grimes Full Member

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    Souness is grand ,no bitterness, he just tells it how he sees it.

    Poor Jamie definitely has an agenda though after Mourinho rinsed him a few seasons back.
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    GifLord The gif that keeps on giffing

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    this it ?
  11. May 25, 2017

    AXVnee7 Full Member

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    How can he suggest that we got lucky and didn't deserve to win? He must've been watching a different game to the rest of us.
  12. May 25, 2017

    AXVnee7 Full Member

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    As for the video. Jose has literally won major trophies both domestically and in Europe employing the exact same tactics. This is not something new that Jose has tried, this is what he is renowned for. It's just bitterness speaking here.
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    Wedge Full Member

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    Pfffft the day Jamie has anything useful to say, will be.......whom I kidding he will never have anything useful to say.
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    cyberman Full Member

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    I don't even blame Souness. A lot of pundits and commentators laid out the scenario of Utd losing v Ajax to drive forward how shit we are.
    Lose this Wednesday and Jose has been a joke appointment, base 3 hrs off of a hypothetical loss and where that leaves us ( 6th lol)
    A lot of cheating going on
  15. May 25, 2017

    VanHaal'sRedArmy Full Member

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    Every time he gets mentioned in this thread and elsewhere he should be called "Sourness" from here on out.
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    Frank Grimes Full Member

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    What?,he said that? Obviously eaten up after Jose burnt him during the week.
    I take it back, obviously has an agenda.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    That was one of the easiest matches we've had this season, so Graeme is talking rubbish.
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    Exactly. It was the classic men against boys scenario. They barely got near our goal let alone threatened it, and we managed to comfortably stroll out a win like it was the old Fergie days of easing to wins.
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    AXVnee7 Full Member

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    Also add this about Pogba... :houllier:

    From the Pogba transformation thread:
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    El cangrejo Banned

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    Literally all of those criticisms fit Gerrard perfectly but would Souness have ever said that about Mr Liverpool?
  21. May 26, 2017

    BorisDeLeFora Full Member

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    In fairness to Graeme not only did he have to sit down and watch a team he clearly hates, he had to watch them play incredibly boring football, which he also hates, and then at the end he had to watch them win a trophy, and celebrate, with great joy, happiness, elation, and all the while he was sitting there, seething, boiling, raging, fit to kill.

    So when you add that to his generally miserable demeanor, it was never going to be positive.
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    ChaddyP Full Member

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    The man said Pogba is incapable of doing brilliant things on the football pitch :lol:

    his criticism should be null and void
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    poleglass red Full Member

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    I normally don't mind Souness but he is way out in this assessment . The host should have showed a bit more balls when Souness challenged him to name one thing Pogba has done this season that was brilliant. Immediately that goal v Swansea springs to mind, that was top drawer, had Gerrard scored it, Souness would still be talking about it.Pogba hasn't had the season that many thought he would, and it's understandable. Early on in certain big games he was poor, we can't argue that. The problem is people like Souness where happy thinking we'd bought a dud. But gradually and very noticeable of late Pogba is starting to assert himself. People like Souness have dug themselves into a hole re Pogba and instead of getting out they continue to keep digging. He needs to wise up, Pogba isn't the first big name that took a while to adjust and he won't be the last.Swallow ur pride Souness and admit he's quality
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    :houllier:
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself Staff

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    It's the only way that he can stay relevant. Bless him.
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    2mufc0 Full Member

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    Don't mind him most of the time but that stuff about Pogba is Bollox.
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    Liver_bird Full Member

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    Its not a personal thing, Souness is just old school and it's the price which I think causes him to constantly accentuate any flaws he sees in his game.
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    2mufc0 Full Member

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    Well he's an old school idiot if he's expecting Pogba play deep and control the game like Xavi or Pirlo, that's not his game or his role. He's a direct attack minded central midfielder, his positional play in the attacking third has been superb this season. So yeah he's talking bollox.
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    11101 Full Member

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    Let's be honest if Pogba played for Liverpool Souness would think he was the best player on the planet. He's always been clouded by his hatred for us.

    All he really needs to look at to see Pogba 'run games' is look at our results at the start of the season, our results when he got injured, and our results again when he came back. You don't need to be breaking people's legs to control the midfield anymore.
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    Summit "do the dead, spread your seed and get out"

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    Fixed
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    Tom Van Persie No relation

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    Bitter twat. :lol:

    I like how he makes it out that you have to properly understand football to see his flaws. So some of the best managers in the world who have managed Pogba like Mourinho, Conte and Allegri don't understand how a midfielder should play because all three of them rate Pogba highly. But some failed manager turned TV pundit can see something they can't. :lol:
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    lewwoo Full Member

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    At least Neville, Carragher etc have the dignity to appear impartial and even go too far the other way at times in trying to appear so. This old fool can't hide his hatred of Utd. He really shouldn't be anywhere near a Utd game if he can't be professional in his role as a pundit.
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    MiceOnMeth New Member

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    In fairness its only Pogba he seems to have it in for, he didnt really say anything negative about the team itself. But it will still enough for me to change the channel!
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    VP89 Pogba's biggest fan

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    He has an orthodox view on how the game should be played. I don't think he's bitter because he's normally down the middle when he speaks of rival clubs. Pogba is a midfielder for the modern game and his hybrid role confuses some pundits.

    I remember redknapp kept comparing him to Lampard in goal expectation, which is equally as criminal because imo he doesnt play as advanced as Lampard did.
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    The Cat Full Member

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    Over many years Souness has generally spoken very highly of United. He's nowhere near the biased individual suggested here.

    He's wrong about Pogba of course but he doesn't hate United.
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    I think he has it in for a) flashy players and b) Manchester United. Pogba is the perfect storm.

    He's a relic of the days of hard work, two footed challenges and passbacks. You just know he would have absolutely hated Ronaldo had he been on TV in 2003-2004.
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    dwd Saturday Night Spies

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    There is a reason he hasn’t been in management for years and it’s not because he is turning down jobs left right and centre.
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    Vault Dweller Full Member

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    Agreed, I don't think he is biased against us either and seen him make some positive comments about us this season. He is wrong about Pogba absolutely, but I don't mind him as a pundit and I don't think he has it in for us as such.
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    dwd Saturday Night Spies

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    The irony is that Souness doesn’t seem to have a basic understanding of Pogba’s position.
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    Adisa Full Member

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    One of my favourite pundits.
    Maybe because I've just accepted him as a miserable sod.
    He doesn't mind sticking the boot in Liverpool also.