Greatest Midfields.

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    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    Firstly, a team isn't only made out of its midfield, secondly, they didn't face a classic midfield in that period while they were one.
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    tentan New Member

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    ----Xabi Alonso----Busquets
    ----Silva-------Xavi-------Iniesta
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    Lord SInister Full Member

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    But I would rather trust Busquets. Redondo was a wuss at times. But than with talent comes the entitlement.
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    Pink Moon Full Member

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    Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets?
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    Mettaur New Member

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    Hard to look past this as well. Made the game boring because of how they toyed with the opponents passing the ball between them.
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    nah_it_wont_happen Banned

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    Midfield is the most essential part of football, it's where the game is won and lost almost all the time.

    What classic midfield are you talking about?

    They face Real Madrid in 2000 and lost; Bayern in 2001, lost; they even lost to Leverkusen despite even having Veron (although the shambolic decision of selling Jaap Stam by SAF perhaps has something to do with it); and again got totally outplayed by Real Madrid in 2003.

    Post 1999, they lost every time they faced a decent midfield.
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    gibers Full Member

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    Not in the EPL. The ball is in the air most of the time and it's mostly about second balls and wingers tbh. The actual central mf has rarely been inportant which is why we always got dismantled in Europe till we started packing the bus.
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    black country red New Member

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    serious keano would of destroyed them
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    gibers Full Member

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    Yea, then got a red card.
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    Kag Full Member

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    I bet if you could dig up the stats you'd find that Beckham/Scholes/Keane/Giggs played nowhere near as many games together as you'd initially think.

    Nicky Butt gets lost amongst the nostalgia. He played a shitload of games for us in midfield.
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    Moby Dick

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    Perhaps, given Busquets will be going down as if he's shot every two minutes with the ref wearing a Barca shirt, as usual.
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    gibers Full Member

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    Probably because he won't see the ball and get frustrated.
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    Moby Dick

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    Barca couldn't dominate possession when Chelsea with the likes of Essien overwhelmed them only for the absolute nightmare of a referee making them go through. A rare occasion where they faced a quality midfield and couldn't carry on with their regular tiki taka. Keane isn't a headless chicken who'd just follow their shadows the whole time. After all, he gave what is one of the greatest individual midfield performances in CL history.

    Don't get me wrong, I worship Xavi and think he's the greatest CM ever but if you would go about looking for someone to give them a right game, Roy would be right up there.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Those two years with Veron.
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    I would have to go for Keane, Scholes, beckham, and Giggs.
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    Zlatattack Full Member

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    Gary Mcallister, Yusuf Chippo, Mustafa Hadji

    Coventry City 1999/2000

    Lol
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    gibers Full Member

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    Plus it was Then what about the 10/11 11/12 iteration? They dominated every midfield for 3 years. Keane is one man.

    Tiki taka doesn't mean anything

    Busquets diodnt play the first game and the mf 3 in the 2nd was keita Xavi and Busquets (In his first senior season).
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Keane struggled against Real Madrid weird assumption that he would boss it against Pep's Barca midfield.
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    That for me has everything you’d want.
    If you’re looking for the ideal Utd midfield then it’s:

    Beckham- Charlton- Robson- Giggs.

    It has passing range, tackling, work rate, pace and goals
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    This
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    Yes, but I thought it was midfield who played together.
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    Moby Dick

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    Keane also bossed Deschamps, Davids and Zidane and Pep's Barca couldn't break Cambiasso and Motta.

    Two can play at this game.
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    gibers Full Member

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    Again, Xavi Iniesta and Busquets didn't face Inter together
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    And I know what site I am on but, one it is weird that we are using wingers for United but, no one else. Like no one is going to say Robben, Martinez, Schweini, Ribery was the best midfield.
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    Moby Dick

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    Still have Xavi and Busquets in there. Is that not good enough to not get overrun 3-1 by Cambiasso and Motta?
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    Moby Dick

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    Because United played a 4-4-2 in which the wide players act as wide midfielders? Something that is a vital part of a flat 4 and was very much a part of United's 4. Beckham usually tucked in as a playmaking CM who had excellent work rate when Scholes would bomb forward. Similarly Giggs would track back into midfield off the ball and help retain it.

    For the record Ribery performed a lot of that as well and would be a big part of creating chances from midfield. There's a difference between the modern wing-forwards and conventional wingers like Giggs, Figo, Nedved and the likes who very much contributed to the midfield battle.
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    Funny thing, I agree with your point but then I tell myself that your question isn't even ridiculous, so the fact that they played together is exceptional. Though I think that Tigana, Platini and Giresse were all better players and part of a better midfield.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    The obvious answer is Busquets-Xavi-Iniesta special mention to Pirlo-Gattuso-Seedorf, Casemiro-Kroos-Modric and Pirlo-Vidal-Pogba.
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    Moby Dick

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    Difference is that the french trio played together and they were well damn good. Obviously a collection of Rijkaard, Matthaus and Maradona is great but they never played together as a midfield. That French midfield is brilliant and had a great world cup outplaying that Spanish midfield of Xavi, Alonso and Fabregas as well as that Brazilian midfield (Zidane took the piss).
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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    Those Spain/Barca midfields were certainly the best I've seen in my lifetime. Having prime Xavi and prime Iniesta in your team at the same time really shouldn't be allowed.

    As someone said above, I suspect the Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Giggs midfield didn't play as many games together as we might think. Plus I prefered the later version of Scholes anyway.
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    harms Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    I wasn't questioning their midfield as a unit. Just three wrong labels, as not one of them are the best in history in their position, with only Zidane being somewhere in the mix.
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    gibers Full Member

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    3rd inter goal was offside and the dynamics of the mf of Xavi Busquest and Iniesta is different from Xavi Busquets and Keita...
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    gibers Full Member

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    lol what Brazilian MF? It was non existent and applied zero pressure.

    Yea the great Spanish mf after Xavi had just come back from a 3-5 month injury.
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    Moby Dick

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    Well yeah, just think that was an excellent midfield especially the form they showed in that WC. It was better than the 1998 team which relied a lot on their defense. The 06 team played some really good football especially vs Spain where Zidane released Ribery and Malouda really well. Really enjoyed the build of that French team - a defense of Sagnol, Thuram, Gallas and Abidal, a midfield of Makelele, Vieira and Zidane with Ribery, Malouda and Henry up front - who while not at his Arsenal levels still scored that crucial goal vs Brazil.
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    CechMate1 Full Member

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    Barcelona had over 70 percent of possession in that game and completed almost 90 percent of their passes, if that isn't dominating possession then I don't know what is

    That Barcelona midfield was insanely good, not just because it had truly elite players but also because Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets had been playing that way their whole life, they had so much understanding together and was completely natural to them
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    Moby Dick

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    I don't remember disputing any of that.

    It was making a point against comments that were arguing that some of the all time great midfielders like Redondo and Keane wouldn't stand a chance against them - height of fanboism. Busquets being superior to Redondo was a particular highlight.
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    Lord SInister Full Member

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    Anyone else loved the Celta midfield of the 2000s, it was some thing when they were on song.
    Also Depor:drool:
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    Freak Born a freak always a freak.

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    I actually thought Jose’s Chelsea midfield of Mekelele - Essien - Lampard was really good.
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    Gio 4 times Redcafe Draft Winner

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    Yeah. A decent case that both Depor and Celta had the best midfields in Spain around the turn of the century - Mauro Silva, Valeron, Sergio, Makelele, Flávio Conceicao, Mostovoi, Karpin, Revivo, Mazinho were all top players.