Hating Lingard

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    Oscie Full Member

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    Precisely. Not sure many people do have a problem with him being a squad player/rotation option.

    The rule seems to be that unless you pretend that all those times he steps onto the pitch and 90 minutes later steps off without anyone really noticing he was there don't exist - you're a "hater".
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    KirkDuyt Full Member

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    I dunno, he's nothing spectacular and those video's he makes are really annoying, but he's usefull sometimes. He looks like a funny chap too, I can tolerate him :)
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    Coops73 Full Member

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    I don’t mind him, I reckon he offers more to the team than just what he produces on the pitch, like coming up with weird hand shakes and the like, those have got be worth 10k on their own, if people really have an issue with his 100k a week salary just give him Harry Potters sock and he’ll be happy.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Which is equal parts incredible/moronic. What to do when you don’t like someone’s Instagram videos? If only the app designers included a feature which allowed you to take them off your feed...
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    doomy20 Full Member

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    The thing with him for me is, if he would be like really good beating defenders, providing goals, deciding matches i would absolutely love his way of acting (the social media crap, the dances, the smiling on the pitch and so on) but if he is just playing average, like most of the time, he is just so anoying. Yesterday was good though.
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    Jaybomb Banned

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    I love Jesse. Always have.
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    fellaini's barber Full Member

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    Yep, was the same with Rooney for 3 years or so, 3-4 good games per season seems to be enough to justify Lingard being in the team for most. And then we wonder we're so far behind the elite teams
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    He would be rated a lot higher if he was given more games in the #10 role. That's his best position, although he has also had some good games on the left, he has rarely performed well on the right despite playing the majority of his games there.
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    edgar allan Full Member

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    He played really well last night and created his goal really well. He was also very good in the cup game earlier in the year, put in a fantastic cross for a Ibra header last year and scored a couple of important Wembley goals a couple of years ago.
    He obviously has talent and workrate but little consistency of performance.

    Is he likely to push on and show that level of performance more regularly now? He hasn't before.
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    golden_blunder I hate football. Getting grumpier by the second Staff

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    Get this into your head.. I have no problem with constructive criticism. What I have a problem with is people saying things like he’s a championship level player or he should be replaced by a player from the youth team who has never been near the first team. That’s complete bollox

    Secondly if I or someone else wants to start a thread supporting a player we can do so.
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    golden_blunder I hate football. Getting grumpier by the second Staff

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    This thread was created before the Watford game, in response to what I feel is over the top criticism

    The fact he played well is just a bonus
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    golden_blunder I hate football. Getting grumpier by the second Staff

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    So far behind (8 points)?
    It’s not the fault of squad players, it’s the fault of successive bollox coaches taking us backwards and not improving the areas of the first team that a blind man could identify
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    He gets alot of unjustified hate considering hes a player who doesnt start every game. He gave us pace in the middle last night and didnt give watford a minutes rest.

    We were much better as a team with him there tonight as the balance was right. If we shoved rashford into that line up instead of him, we would have looked disjointed.
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    2mufc0 Full Member

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    Don't mind him, he's bang average but a good squad player, shouldn't be a starter. The only issue i have is with him are the wages he's on, plenty of much better players around on much less.
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    Drifter American

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    He's English. That's enough for some on here
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    JoaquinJoaquin Full Member

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    He won the Balon D'or last night, did you not see it?

    Totally agree with your post. I am one who can be quite harsh on Lingard but I feel it is often justified. He was really good last night though, so let's see how he goes against Arsenal. Got a feeling this already stupid thread could look daft after that game if Lingard plays poor.
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    10 bad games, first good game and then this thread. And all the posts about how people were wrong, etc...Bloody hell.
    To op; he is championship player, has been , is and will be. Not near man utd level. Invisible in 9 of 10 games in which he plays.
    Obertan had flashes, jordy cruyf had flashes, bellion had flashes so one or two good games can't change the fact that player is just not good enough.
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    JoaquinJoaquin Full Member

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    The funny thing is, some people think it makes them more of a T0p Red if they defend Lingard to the hilt which is pathetic.
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    edgar allan Full Member

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    I don't think that has a bearing at all....Rashford is English.
    Fellaini is Belgian but I don't think that contributed to the criticism he got and I don't sense any growing hostility to Armenians as a nationality of late.
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    GloryHunter07 Full Member

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    Jesus :lol:
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    Watford last night was probably his best performance for us -- yet he still missed a sitter. He needs to create more and certainly score more to convince me
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    I loved him when he scored that goal, but then he did that stupid celebration and I hated him again. not really
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    That was his second league start of this season but carry on...

    Four goals and four assists so far, in all competions (six starts in total). Let’s just hope he keeps these “flashes” up.
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    villain caf sexpert

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    1 - is stupidity
    2 - is jealousy
    3 - is a mixture of both, considering nobody is forced to watch his videos.
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    Kylar Stern Full Member

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    I think he's a decent squad player, capable of putting in a good performance every now and then and regularly stands up to be counted in the bigger games - scoring in the FA Cup Final, Europa Final and the Community Shield in recent years.

    More importantly, he seems to fit in well with the team, and I suspect would be quite fun for the team to have in the dressing room which is a benefit in itself.

    He's not a world beater and probably never will be, but decent squad players that are happy with their role aren't always easy to come by, and as much as it's been mocked in this thread being local should carry some importance for the fans, however small.
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    Well OP clearly said that he dont have problem with constructive criticism, but has issue with comment like 'he is championship player', which I also think it's OTT.
    I don't think its TopRed issue.
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    Nobody in the world could have scored a goal like the one he did last night.
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    There’s a player in there he just needs to show it on a consistent basis. I’d keep him in the team for a few games see what happens. Mata and Mkhitaryan are useless right now anyway.
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    You completely sum up our internet fan base.
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    Ha ha - so true! That’s an excellent post. I’ve always been fairly neutral on him. Think he gives us additional option especially with his speed and work rate.
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    Glad he shut some people up after that crucial goal yesterday.
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    villain caf sexpert

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    Lingard is definitely a internet warrior scapegoat, we have a few in our squad that people love to hate.

    As far as i'm concerned; anyone who hates any of our players is immature & pathetic, sorry.
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    I'm not talking about OP though. I think it is a bit of a case of TopRed thing with Lingard, In fact I know of people who do that. It's bizarre.

    In regards to the forum and Lingard, I think some of the criticism does go overboard, but at the same time alot of the praise goes overboard to. Fact of the matter is, He has been poor in alot more games then he has been good, so by laws of average some would say he shouldn't be at the club. My personal opinion is that I don't think at present he doesn't do enough to deserve the amount of games and high wages he gets, But then he does things like last night that make me sit back and think 'wow he is actually a pretty good footballer when he is locked in and focused'. Problem is he will do something like last night then go through a spell of 6-7 terrible games and he will find himself back out of the team. Rinse and repeat. This is arguably the best chance he has now to make a mark when we have Arsenal, City and a crucial CL game coming up. I hope he takes it because we are in dying need for the creativity.
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    NoLogo Full Member

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    Very good points. I think as a squad player he is as good as it gets. A player who would be a starter for any team outside the big 6 imo should count as a good squad player for us and I'm pretty sure he would be a nailed on starter for almost any team outside the big 6.
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    golden_blunder I hate football. Getting grumpier by the second Staff

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    What do you mean?
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    Viral United Full Member

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    That's completely true, it's more like 'I told you so' posts.
    I thought you are talking about OP so my apology to you.
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    golden_blunder I hate football. Getting grumpier by the second Staff

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    What’s stupid about showing a bit of support for a player?
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    Mr PG New Member

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    Jesse Lingard of all people must be the only player JM favours and plays when not deserving...think about that for a minute. Mou must hate Shaw (a player he tried to buy for chelsea)..Martial, Miktaryan...blah...blah blah. That's fan logic for you. People just cannot bring themselves to admit (especially when their favorite players aren't played) Mourinho is as fair and ruthless as Managers come. Everybody and I mean everybody has to earn their place. Jesse has something many players lack and that is Cojones.
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    golden_blunder I hate football. Getting grumpier by the second Staff

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    Wrong, wrong, wrong.

    To say he’s not united level is fair enough but to insinuate he couldn’t play for some other PL team is just complete bollox

    You are the epitome of why this thread came about, throwing bollock statements around
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    NinjaZombie Punched the air when Liverpool beat City

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    :lol:

    Are you me?

    I think he has his uses, but he just annoys me. I'm getting old.

    *Edit* ok you're not. Crap.