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Based on what?
He is the single cause of friction between my son and I when we’ve watched him play - ha ha! My son has your opinion. Listen, I like him and am desperate for him to do well with all the talent he obviously has. The issue is consistency and mental fortitude. I am afraid we just haven’t seen much of that.
Miki is finished at OT as far as I can see. He doesn't have the trust of the team or manager, you can see it.
A squad player, and unfortunately, another player who arrived (from Bundesliga) with high expectations, and simply has failed to deliver. I think the stage and the pressure has proved too much for him. Being a decent player, technically, is just one characteristic that makes a player. But he has not been able to make an impact and influence a game as a No 10 should at United.
A shame, but the guy has to go. No sentiment afforded.
We've looked much better since he got dropped.
Tbf that was mainly due to Pogba coming back.
What I fail to understand is how such a technically gifted player can give the ball away so much.
Quick, skilfull, creative, solid finishing. I am always impressed when player with such qualities fails.
I can't see how he will survive summer unless we decide not to buy new attacking midfielder. If we buy new player, there is no reason to have 4 no10 players in squad. And among mikhi, mata and lingard it would be logically to sell most expensive one, and it is mikhi.
Mata should also go. Guy is a liability, or a luxury teams can ill afford, and he doesn't have any impact, expression, power, presence, goals, bite, inspiration or leadership... I wouldn't mind, but he doesn't have any of these qualities. I watched him last night, and he seems lost. No purpose at all. A few glorious touches isn't enough, especially in a Mourinho team.
A mid-table team in La Liga would be perfect for Mata.
Don't agree about mata. At all. Mata is quality player. Ladt night he was in every our action. But that is topic for another thread.
I'm not even sure why we went for him in the first place given his fragile mentality and considering the pressure that comes with playing for us. Very poor scouting that.
He's an experienced player from a decent league, and overall he's been poor.
Unless he turns things around after Christmas, and actually plays well, get rid.
Mata might be a luxury player and physically weaker than his competitors but he's not a pussy and you can rely on him during the toughest of times that at very least he won't shy away.
Didn't that already happen when he was dropped from the squad for the games against Newcastle and Basel, came on against Brighton then dropped again for the three games since?
I mean in training and general behind the doors attitude. He's been in and out of the squad lately but so was Martial last season and he's now become a regular. I don't think we should be writing Mkhi off just yet and I don't think Mourinho has either.
The season is long, we are going to fight on multiple fronts. And we need every single body, Mki too. He may not have had the best start here but he deserves another shot. Lets try him in a setup with Pogba, maybe he will shine again.
Finally, a good reasoning. Ive been following the guy for many years. He isnt an orchestrator and he will never be. Whereever he played there was a guy who would create chances. He simply carries the ball through midfield very fast and finishes. He was very good at that. Jose has been trying to change his mentality and I think it fecked him up quite a bit. He was very poor without Pogba because he was left by himself in the midfield. Matic and Herrera are way too defensive while attackers go up to much and dont help creating much. That was creating quite a big gap and he looked very poor there. He might be better off moving to another team. We can bring someone like Perisic who would fit Joses football ideology perfectly. Im not sure whether Sanchez or Griezmann will be very good at United. They might struggle with bus parking strategy of many games.
Mata's issues seem to be more about physical limitations as far as size, strength, pace and stamina are concerned, but he gives you an honest effort when he's out there. For example, I feel that you can depend on him to attempt to track back and even if he gets beat it's usually do to his lack of pace, not for lack of trying. Mata also doesn't get dispossessed half the time he receives the ball even when put under pressure.
Mkhi's effort levels seem to have dipped in step with a dip in his ability to do basic things like hold onto the ball or complete passes. He needs to sort himself out or move on this summer. I wouldn't think about selling him in January. We saw how far the squad got stretched last season towards the business end of the season.
Mata was responsible for 2 goals, one against CSKA and one earlier. Mata does not take many chances as Miki does, so his lateral passes and doing circles looks better. I like Mata though.
So no Pogba for City game, maybe no Fellaini for long balls. Let's see how Lingard does, with Herrera and Matic behind him. This is where Miki struggled since Liverpool game.
Lingard may struggle to play out just like Mkhi, but an average form Lingard guarantee that he would press better so give us more in midfield battle and being available to support the forwards when they need a pass; which are 2 keys in distinguishing an invisible unacceptable performance vs an average one
Spalletti won't let Perisic go. He just scored a hat trick for them. They are leading Series A right now. But they may get Miki and that would be a good move for them.
Should go back to Dortmund.
Would fit right in.
The game has not started yet and you are already defending Lingard
He will not go there.
I think unless is a pure youngster - I wouldn't buy a dprtmund player ever again
He will have to go somewhere.
Not particularly bothered where.
Maybe if Raiola throws some more chairs they will take him back.
He would fit right in with plenty of teams just none under Jose.
Dortmund is no go. They may get a new coach, Auba may leave, the transfer saga.
Italy sounds good to me.
Think we already get the nod from Ozil
Let's blame Jose for his poor form.
I wonder if the same people were blaming Klopp for his poor form under him at Dortmund. And Klopp plays the quick attacking football that this guy supposedly thrives on.
He did not have a poor form. His first season was ok, the second season not so, but most of the team did not do well. The 3rd season was spectacular.
Btw, why do you keep commenting here? You don't care about him, he is almost gone. Just move on.
Because I can? You can ignore my posts if it bothers you so much. And it would be best for both of us. For as long as he's a poor performing United player, I am entitled to an opinion. This is not North Korea.
Klopp wasn't manager in that 3rd season.
Strange claim considering Mourinho was the one who actually bought him. It's not like he was in the team previously setting the world on fire then Jose came and his performance dropped suddenly.
No, no, by all means, keep commenting. I enjoy your constructively inputs about a player, who does not play right now.
I know who was the coach in 15/16 season in Dortmund.
Why thank you.
A very amicable agreement. Now do enjoy the rest of your day.
As for Micky, let's hope we have a suitable replacement for him or that he has a miraculous return to form fit for a United player. Either way I'll be happy.
He hasnt even been making the bench has he the past couple of games?
Klopp was done. Everyone knew what he was gonna do and thats why his second season was so bad. Plus injuries and lack of confidence. A losing streak, bad luck. You can keep adding to the list. It wasnt very nice to watch. They turned it around in the end. Mkhi had a pretty big role in it. The rest is history.
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