Hillary Clinton booed, cavalcade hit by shoes, tomatoes in Egypt‎

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    Clinton booed, cavalcade hit by tomatoes in Egypt

    Protesters threw tomatoes and shoes at Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's motorcade on Sunday during her first visit to Egypt since the election of Islamist President Mohamed Mursi. A tomato struck an Egyptian official in the face, and shoes and a water bottle landed near the armored cars carrying Clinton's delegation in the port city of Alexandria after she gave a speech on democratic rights.

    A senior U.S. official said neither Clinton nor her vehicle, which was around the corner from the incident, were hit by the projectiles, which were thrown as U.S. officials and reporters walked to the motorcade after her speech.

    Protesters chanted "Monica, Monica," a reference to the extra-marital affair conducted by Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, while in the White House. Others earlier chanted "leave, Clinton" an Egyptian security official said.

    It was not clear who the protesters were or what were their political affiliations. Demonstrations have become common in Egypt since former President Hosni Mubarak, long-time U.S. ally, was brought down by mass street protests last year.

    Egypt is gripped by political uncertainty as two major forces, the military and the Muslim Brotherhood, engage in a power struggle over the future of a country that remains without a permanent constitution, parliament or government.

    On Saturday night, protesters outside Clinton's luxury hotel in Cairo chanted anti-Islamist slogans, accusing the United States of backing the Muslim Brotherhood's rise to power.

    In her speech at the newly re-opened U.S. consulate in Alexandria, Clinton rejected suggestions that the United States, which had long supported former Mubarak, was backing one faction or another in Egypt following his ouster last year.

    "I want to be clear that the United States is not in the business, in Egypt, of choosing winners and losers, even if we could, which of course we cannot," Clinton said.

    "We are prepared to work with you as you chart your course, as you establish your democracy," she added. "We want to stand for principles, for values, not for people or for parties."

    TANTAWI STRESSES ECONOMY
    Earlier on Sunday, Clinton met Egypt's top general, Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, to discuss Egypt's turbulent democratic transition as the military wrestles for influence with the new president.

    The meeting came a day after she met Mursi, whose powers were clipped by the military days before he took office.

    Mursi fired back by reinstating the Islamist-dominated parliament that the army leadership had disbanded after a court declared it void, deepening the stand-off before the new leader even had time to form a government.

    In their hour-long meeting, Clinton and Tantawi discussed Egypt's political transition, the military's "ongoing dialogue with President Mursi," and the country's economic troubles, a U.S. official travelling with Clinton said in an email brief.

    "Tantawi stressed that this is what Egyptians need most now - help getting the economy back on track," the official said.

    The talks also touched on the increasingly lawless Sinai region and the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

    Speaking after the meeting, Tantawi said the army respected the presidency but would not be deterred from its role of "protecting" Egypt.

    "The armed forces and the army council respects legislative and executive authorities," he said in a speech to troops in the city of Ismailia. "The armed forces would not allow anyone to discourage it from its role in protecting Egypt and its people."

    TIES STRAINED
    Ties with the United States, which provides Egypt with an annual $1.3 billion in military aid, were strained this year when Egyptian judicial police raided the offices of several U.S.-backed non-governmental organizations on suspicion of illegal foreign funding and put several Americans on trial.

    The spat ended when Egyptian authorities allowed the U.S. citizens and other foreign workers to leave the country.

    Clinton said Washington wanted to support "real democracy," in which "no group or faction or leader can impose their will, their ideology, their religion, their desires on anyone else."

    She delivered a similar message in earlier meetings with women and Christians, both groups that fear their rights may be curtailed under a Muslim Brotherhood-dominated government.

    "I will be honest and say some have legitimate fears about their future," she said. "I said to them ... no Egyptian, no person anywhere, should be persecuted for their faith, or their lack of faith, for their choices about working and not working.

    "Democracy is not just about reflecting the will of the majority. It is also about protecting the rights of the minority," she said.

    The United States had learned that "the hard way," Clinton said, noting the U.S. constitution originally did not protect the rights of women or slaves.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...it-by--tomatoes-in-Egypt/Article1-889773.aspx
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    The Monica chants are class
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    Without youtube, this will never top George Bush and his Matrix skills.
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    'Monica' :lol:
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    I've always liked the word Cavalcade. It'd be a good name for a conspiracy thriller. Or a band. Or some kind of natural disaster. Or a hat.
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    De Selby Likes them tattooed and bald

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    Just a quick question for people here: ever been so outraged that you had to take off your shoe and throw it at the cause of the outrage?
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    Mockney Not the only poster to be named Poster of the Year

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    ...Or a shoe! Then I could throw my cavalcade at a cavalcade. That would be amazing. It's the little things.
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    Grinner Fat gutted, hairy shouldered, stinky Arse.

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    Isn't that a particular kind of insult in that part of the world? I recall Iraqis belting that Saddam statue with their flip-flops with gusto.
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    De Selby Likes them tattooed and bald

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    Yeah, perhaps.

    They're far more expressive over in that part of the world. Someone angers them, they grab what's closest and fling it. When something angers us in Ireland or the U.K. we write a strongly-worded letter to our local paper.
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    Grinner Fat gutted, hairy shouldered, stinky Arse.

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    Or a play by Noel Coward, which was made into a movie!

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    If I was Eqyptian I would want all American politicians expelled and the embassy demolished. I say they're treating her better than we deserve.


    Amazing she can even get this out of her mouth:
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    JustAFan Red Yankee

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    Any truth to the rumour that Hillary made the motorcade stop so she could see if there were any shoes she liked?
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    Its always funny to see politicians getting a little abuse but in all fairness Hilary is probably one of the last ones that deserve it TBH.
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    Bush getting the shoe treatment:

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    Perhaps not personally, but considering the position she holds in the cabinet its hardly surprising she got the reception she did.
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    Kaos Full Member

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    Yeah its something its ingrained into the culture. Its used as a way to punish your children by taking off your flip flops and smacking them about with em, and its also used in general confrontations.

    Its seen as a ultimate insult to the receiving person.
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    De Selby Likes them tattooed and bald

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    At least she qualified it by saying, "in Egypt", which, of course, is bullshit in itself, but it's also a tacit recognition that they've stuck their noses in where it's rarely been wanted before (whether she meant it like that or not is immaterial).

    And the last nine words are laughable.
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    This is Hillary Clinton, she'll be completely unfazed by booing.
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    Wait she wants us to believe the US have had no part in the arab spring, or even any vested interest in seeing who rises to power?

    Is she having a bubble bath.
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    To be fair to her she did suggest that they played a role in other countries, just not Egypt. :)
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    I wouldnt waste my shoe/s on some rotten politico. better carry an old worn out pair to some of these rallies, and let go.

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