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Home Office misrepresenting international student migration numbers(Are migration figures bogus?)

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Adisa, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Aug 24, 2017
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva

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    So it has come to light that the Home Office for years, has been misrepresenting the international student's migration numbers by about 100,000.
    Actual figures show vast majority of students (97%) return home.
    This has called into question the rest of the migration figures and how they're calculated.
    How long has government policy been based on inflated and misleading figures?
    Also, is this a question of an honest mistake or the government has been intentionally misleading the public.
    On a personal note, I was once an international student (as recent as 2014). I always found the figure dubious.
    I don't know a single international student that has overstayed.
  2. Aug 24, 2017
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    unchanged_lineup Tarheel Tech Wizard

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    Policy towards international students, combined with Brexit, is why I'm not working there anymore. Feel for my old colleagues whose job security has been damaged by this.
  3. Aug 25, 2017
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    Giant Midget Aka - rooney_10119

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    the sheer incompetence of the british government never fails to amuse me.
  4. Aug 25, 2017
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    Nick 0208 Ldn News 24

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    Given that a lower headline figure would have been of some benefit to successive governments, i would have doubts as to this being part of some plot.
  5. Aug 25, 2017
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    11101 Full Member

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    I read on the BBC the rules were changed in the 90s so this has been going on for some time and through successive governments.
  6. Aug 25, 2017
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    Mozza It’s Carrick you know

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    Another example of Theresa May's incompetence
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    Nogbadthebad Full Member

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    Its not incompetence, she a xenophobic authoritarian who wants to control everything and will not be told once she has made her mind up.

    This is simply what she believes in, and what she needs to be true to make her immigration narrative work.

    This is what may is, and what may always has been since the start of her political career.
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    Mozza It’s Carrick you know

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    She's both. I've posted before of her evil policy regarding spouse visas, where it's harder if you have kids which leads to many living apart from one of their parents
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    I'm not sure its come to light its well discussed and has been for years.

    This is just the Tory contenders distancing themselves from her, all part of her managed exit.
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    Dobba Full Member

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    I'm sure the Prime Minister will come down hard on whoever was in charge of the Home Office at the time.
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    Wibble In Gadus Speramus Staff

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    :lol:
  12. Aug 25, 2017
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    moxdevil Full Member

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    This is a little misleading as the 2016/17 figures are the result of two actions - 1) a clampdown on bogus colleges that took place prior to 2016 and 2) the introduction of border checks from 2016. The reputation for overstaying students was almost entirely the result of those that were pretending to be studying at colleges as opposed to those that were actually studying at universities prior to 2016.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva

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    You're talking about something entirely different. The government had been saying 100,000+ students have stayed back in the UK after their VISA expired. The figure is actually 4,000.
    People pretending to be students is not the topic of discussion.
  14. Aug 25, 2017
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    moxdevil Full Member

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    Those pretending had Student visas so I am clearly talking about the same group.

    I should also add that most of the immigration routes that students were switching to in large numbers in the UK have also closed, mainly Tier 1 Post Study Work and Tier 1 General, so naturally a larger number will return home as they cannot find a route to stay legally.
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    Smores Full Member

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    So she's doubled down on the lie claiming the reduced figures just shows her actions have been effective :wenger:

    Its been nice and peaceful with her gone, back to more frustration now :(
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    She should take a page from Davies book and take the Home Office minister of the time to the ECJ court.
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    It's incompetence.

    She could have controlled immigration as Home Secretary by asking EU job seekers to register before looking for work, and then asking them to leave if they hadn't found any after 6 months.

    She didn't do that.
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    Doesn't even make sense to misreport these. In the US the universities and surrounding businesses, especially apartment leasing agencies love international students for the out of state tuition fees they bring.
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    Bournemouth relies quite heavily on foreign students and European visitors for the reasons you quoted yet the town voted overwhelmingly for Brexit... Go figure.