I hope Chelsea appoint Di Matteo

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    padzilla Hipster

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    Simply because it'll be good news from a United point of view, if he wasn't good enough for West Brom he certainly isn't good enough for the Rent Boys. This all smacks of the Avram Grant scenario and if he's put in charge permanently we'll have one less team to worry about for the title race next year.
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    Aint gota Kalou Full Member

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    He's done well at getting the team spirit back in the camp but that was the easy bit. Tackling the senior players, rebuilding the team and hopefully changing their style of play is the real problem the next manager needs to deal with. I don't think he's experienced or good enough to do that though.
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    I agree. I don't think he's the reason for their resurgence. Looks to me like the players want to prove everyone wrong, and maybe they did hate Villas Boas, they've also been very very lucky. This won't last, and Di Matteo is not the right man for them.
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    Well he clearly noticed that it wouldn't be possible to create that new style of play with the old players, which AVB tried to implement.

    So he decided to let them do what they are good at, sit deep and play long balls at their target man Drogba.

    And so far it's working.

    He also gave them back their self confidence by letting them do what they are used to.

    So far you can argue and say that he has done little and changed less but if that's what the team needed it would be harsh criticizing him for getting the results again.
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    Stanley Road I.C.F. Member

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    What makes you think United will be in the title race next year?

    As all Chelsea managers get the sack for not winning the CL, he will get the job if they win it

    It would seem
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    Why wouldn't we be in the title race next year? We're having our worst season in terms of injuries and performance levels in recent memory and are still top of the league, that would suggest that we should be able to challenge again next year with player returns and new signings.
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    Antisocial Full Member

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    Annoying that the one game he's lost as manager was against City :mad:

    Appointing him (and more crucially supporting him) would be an interesting move certainly, but I'd be surprised if Roman doesn't get attracted to yet another high-profile manager (one that likely will be going there with one eye on the pay-off in his contract).
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    Stanley Road I.C.F. Member

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    Because in football you cant make assumptions and there are no guarantees

    Look at barca, they'd won the CL before yesterday now they're out
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    United have been in the title race every year barring the couple years when Chelsea ran away with it. It's a fair assumption to make United will compete next year. It's a ridiculous thing to say there is no right to make assumptions or that there are no guarantees in football. I can say next year for sure United and City will be in the CL, that's a guarantee. If we look back at this year and last it's also fair to say United will be competitive.

    All Chelsea managers get the sack when they fail to win the league. Often a common occurance.

    Back to the OP I initially hoped Di Matteo would get the job because changes have to be made long term in the team. However he has done a good job in integrating the likes of Bertrand and Obi Mikel back into the first team squad. So maybe he can manage the change as well.
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    It doesnt matter what manager they install really. They need to get rid of the egos and deadweight first before they can progress longterm.
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    It's easy to motivate players for Champions League knock out games, it won't be so easy to mount a realistic title campaign and integrate new players into the squad over the course of a long period, having said that he does appear to have a lot more class than Villas Boas.
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    Stanley Road I.C.F. Member

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    Because they have qualified right?

    Yes you can gurantee something that has happend in the past

    I guarantee chelsea will play in the 2012 CL final
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    Why do you always have to be such a dick?

    Of course, City and United will compete in the CL next season.
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    Stanley Road I.C.F. Member

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    Yes, they have qualified already

    Please get with the program
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    He's doing well because instead of trying to make changes like AVB did cackhandedly and like Ancelotti did (to a lesser extent) he's basically just chummed up to Terry/Cech/Lampsy Boy/Drog and is giving them what they want.

    Which might work for about another season or so if he's given the job but they will then need to make changes and I don't think he's the man for that.

    (to be fair I am getting slightly sick of EVERY season being "this Chelsea side's last chance to win the Champions League")
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    what makes you think United will be not ?
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    If he doesn't get the Chelsea job he'll end up getting the next highest profile vaccant position in the premier league - I could easily see Tottenham going for him if Redknapp leaves.
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    Stanley Road I.C.F. Member

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    No, are the next 15 years the same?
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    adexkola American Arse

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    Yep, me too. This will have raised his profile across England, if not Europe.
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    You're a bit of a retard if you think United won't be in the title race next season. By bit, I mean someone on Stan's level, which is probably too big for the imagination to conjour.
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    I have no idea either, yet.
    Stan leave this thread. Go to any bookies site and check the odds for next season.

    Anything can happen in one match, a season is less whimsical.
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    To be fair to Stan, I don't take United challenging for the title every year as a given and I'd fully understand if we had the odd "transitional season" coupled with Chelsea/City spending huge amounts of money.
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    We've had probably one season in the past 20 where we haven't competed for the title. So it's ok to say we will compete next year even if we don't end up doing so.
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    Huh? Only one? What exactly is your definition of competing? We've had 3 in the last 10 years alone.
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    Right, but do you think United will be challenging next season?
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    Yeah, what could possibly make him think that?
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    Competing for me is actually going for the title. Theres a difference between competing and winning. Take this year for example, we might not win it but we can definitely say we competed. The only season that we probably didn't compete was when Mourinho's Chelsea ran away with the title.
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    ERICSAGOD Grumpy Old Git

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    Sorry, am I missing something here.

    This bloke that's ''not good enough'' isn't he the same manager that's just taken them into the final of the Champions League. :houllier:
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    Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button

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    Avram Grant took them to the final of the champions league, and he done a terrible job at Portsmouth.
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    ERICSAGOD Grumpy Old Git

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    DID!
    Do you honestly think anyone could have saved that club!!!! :rolleyes:
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    Judge Red Don't Call Me Douglas

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    When it comes to luck evening itself out over the course of a season, Di Matteo is benefitting from all the bad luck AVB had. Chelsea had some rotten decisions go against them and never managed to get any momentum going under AVB. Now they have the Midas touch.
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    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    The less influence their managee has on them, the better. Scolari, who's actually a decent manager, got replaced by a nobody like Grant and results improved. The same has happened just right now.
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    Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button

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    What about West Ham? Didn't do too well for them either.
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    ERICSAGOD Grumpy Old Git

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    I'm not talking about Avram Grant!

    So far Di Matteo has done an excellent job for Chelsea, and should be congratulated on what he has achieved so far.
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    United are a properly run club, so I do expect them to be competing for titles in England and Europe...even after Fergie retires.


    ...unlike Liverpool who have chosen to piss away their legacy by apointing a has been as manager.
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    I disagree on your part about West Brom. He was more than good enough for them, yet the board decided to get rid of him after a bad run of form.

    On the rest of it though, I can see where you're coming from. He's a good young manager who has done a good job, however he's yet to really be tested over a long period of time. He came in at the right time in the sense that he had no pressure on his shoulders as he didn't expect to be a permanent appointment, and things couldn't really get any worse than they already are.

    The real test of a manager is always their first full season. If there was no pressure before; it's suddenly there. That manager will then be tested in the transfer market, and he's got to keep the players happy over a longer period of time as well.
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    ERICSAGOD Grumpy Old Git

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    So you think appointing an ex-player as manager doesn't work?



    The name Pep Guardiola springs to mind! :houllier:
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    Scolari replaced Grant who took over from Mourinho.

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