I'm not spending £72m on this lot: Sir Alex anger at being quoted outrageous prices

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    Well Bob Cass has been saying they will be the biggest spenders this summer and look to be faves for Tiote so we shall see.
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    Possibly ...

    But when Hazard is sold for 32m + 6m agent fee and has not yet kicked a ball in the Prem, what conclusion do you think Levy draws about any sale price for a Prem-proven Modric?
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    It really doesn't.
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    I still just can't see him as the type of player Fergie would want at any price, he just doesn't fit the mould of the type of CM he seems to like.

    Kagawa is a #10 where as Modric is a proper CM.
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    I'm loathe to believe this at all but £72m for a decent, albeit IMO a vastly overrated modfielder (Modric), a decent midfielder bought for £3.5m 2 years ago with 1 year 'top tier' experience and a reserve LB.

    Outrageous. No wonder SAF talks about "value".
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    He did hand in a transfer request when Chelsea came calling. They told him he wasnt leaving and frankly the way they acted sounded like he was being treated as a child. Plus he said that they broke their promises to him.

    If I were a decently rated footballer and Spurs wanted me, I wouldnt sign anything above a 2 year deal to be honest. Just a budget hellhole without the luxury of the wages at City, another club you cant escape even if you want to.
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    No I wouldn't spend 72 million on them, neither would I be looking at Baines or Tiote.
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    The fact Hazard didnt hate being at his current club and didnt consider them to have crossed him fecks him over? That should be the conclusion. "Maybe if I wasnt such a smug git last summer we'd be in a position to ask for more money" should be another conclusion for him.

    Plus City and Chelsea were in for Hazard. Right now neither are in for Modric, yet this summer.
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    It's a newspaper headline. Has Ferguson come out and declared his anger?
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    That's a bit dismissive of Spurs, their wage bill is £91M a year which means players are being paid pretty well. 'Budget hellhole' says more about players' ridiculous expectations.
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    Make up a story about United transfers
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    Profit.

    The '????' isn't really necessary, is it?
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    Spurs would hardly be willing to offer just a 2 year deal after paying for a decently rated footballer. Although I see what you're saying, footballers don't tend to be so forward thinking - if you were a young player in an eastern European league, you'd probably jump at the chance of playing in one of the worlds top leagues too.
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    Modric won't be sold for less money than A. Caroll.
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    Modric for 32mil is a perfectly reasonable price. I'd be shocked if we moved for less.

    Neither of Baines or Tiote are worth 20mil though.
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    Whether we like it or not those are the market prices of players today. The only ways we can afford to spend less is to either go for unkown talent or opt for players who are on the transfer list/at the last yr of their contract. Providing of course that these players arent wanted by big clubs of course.
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    Forcing an unhappy player to stay with a club is counter productive
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    hm looks like someone let the cat out of the bag.....again
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    Tiote and Baines can feck off. £72m on interest is the way forward.
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    Imo - Chelsea must be pretty darn near the limit of what they can afford to spend if they are to have any chance of reaching the FFP goals.

    And with UEFA kicking out a turkish team because of FFP - maybe they will have the balls to do it to Chelsea as well (not that I believe it)

    If they offload 4-5 more players - they could probably raise £30-40 million - in which case their net spend won't be so bad. But they can't take another transfer window of a net spend of £50 mil or more.
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    I'm not commenting on the rumors...but why wouldn't we be in for someone like Tiote?

    You can't expect Carrick to play 45-50 matches every season, and expect him to maintain form over that entire duration. We keep looking for partners for Carrick...but who in our lineup at present can play the Carrick role?

    Fletch? How much can we rely on him, if at all?
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    Besiktas were banned because they were delaying payments for their players and avoiding taxes. It had nothing to do with FFP.
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    If we bought Modric for £32m it would be an excellent piece of business.

    Part of me is concerned that Fergies insistence in getting Value in the market is going to end up hindering us, as it arguably has done already. There is something to be admired about refusing to give in to inflated prices, but we need to be able to keep pace with our competitors.

    I would say its probably more likely however that Fergie has used this whole Value thing over the last couple of years as a ploy to simpy try to stop us getting ripped off in transfer dealings. If clubs know (or think) that we aren't going to pay over the odds anymore, they may stop demanding us to do so.
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    Anyone else thinks we are actually for the three mentioned players and the story is a controlled leak?
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    Assuming any of this has any truth to it: Modric is easily worth 32mil and Tiote isn't far away from being worth 20mil. The Baines price is ridiculous though.
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    Great to see that we are properly looking to improve the squad, no matter how much we end up spending!
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    Classic cass story. Sir Alex obviously wanted this printing for some reason.
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    charleysurf Obnoxious, abusive bellend who is best ignored

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    Or Cass is a desperate old hack trying to cling on to his job by writing any old rubbish.

    It´s all possible.
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    Fergie realised after his error in paying so much for Berba he has made it his own personal quest that United are not going to be stiffed. So we would rather take a gamble of upto £20m on clear potential and youth and gain value through years of service than buy the finished article.
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    No it's not. It's a confirmation that he doesn't want to spend £72,000,000 on 3 players that put together, aren't worth close to £72,000,000.

    That's no indication whatsoever that we don't have much money to play with.
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    We are interested in Kagawa. Dont know why we would go for Modric unless Kagawa deal is gone sour. Baines and Tiote makes sense but 20 mil each is a rip off. No thanks you. Jones can learn to play the Tiote role and Fabio will back up Evra.
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    Because they play different roles?
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    Tbh Tiote for 12-15 mil rising to 20 depending on appearances and trophies wouldnt be a bad deal at all.
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    It cant be that simple.
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    Hmmm interesting article.

    Here is a question for you all. Would you sooner have one big money signing this year on someone we really need or a few lesser value players in a couple of different areas?

    So for instance would you sooner have a shed load of cash blown on Modric, Martinez or the like or a couple of signings to the value of Kagawa?
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    Cass' piece says we're looking to press ahead with the Kagawa deal next week.

    Would seem a straightforward answer.
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    Of course you'd always want to spend less but it depends on the quality of player. For example do I think Baines and Tiote should be valued the same as Shinji Kagawa? No. If you can get Martinez for c.£30m should you stump up the cash? Yes. What matters is not the size of the fee but whether it can be justified. Another example: The article says the total transfer for Hazard including agents' fees was £50m. No way justified.
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    No. I want a centre midfielder. Scholes and Carrick aren't going to cut it all season. £50m on Modric and Kagawa would be superb business.
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    If he wants to leave them badly then why does he keep on signing extensions? (If rumours are to be believed).
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    Also if we can afford it!

    My question is more centered around us having a chunk of money to spend. Would you sooner than chunk all go on one player we really need or would you prefer it be broken up into a couple of players.
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    Justify spend is an interesting concept. If more expensive players bring in greater success (trophies/competitions won = prize money) then it might be justified.

    Our failure to address midfield weaknesses last summer resulted in early exits from all competitions.

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